Alliance Etiquette?

dswan3rd
dswan3rd Posts: 205 Tile Toppler
edited March 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
So I'm relatively new to being in an alliance, and the extra rewards here and there (HP/ISO/Tokens) have been nice, but I'm wondering what the rules or expectations are in terms of...allegiance I guess? My slice is set to end at midnight for Prodigal Sun, and I'm 36th (29th in Thunderbolts Mountain) so I'm looking at a pair of Iron Fist covers (and of course would love a third). However, my alliance is 200+ in both spots.

Is it "frowned upon" to "alliance hop" if you joined through the board and haven't been in that long? Thoughts?

My apologies if this is in the wrong place - the Alliance section seemed to be dedicating to recruiting.

Thanks!
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  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    Become a mercenary, this link will be your best friend
    viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12642
  • revizion
    revizion Posts: 24 Just Dropped In
    We've all been there. When you're new to the game, and you see the little extra ISO and tokens that can be gained from picking the 1st public alliance on the list, our eyes get big.
    Staying, however, can be one of the biggest rookie mistakes (check out this thread for some others viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18326)

    If your current Alliance isn't doing it for you, hop into recruiting and find a new one. After being in the same pub for almost 3 seasons, I finally did the same and I've been able to make TONS more progress since then and my transition is well underway.

    Good luck!
  • Arondite
    Arondite Posts: 1,188 Chairperson of the Boards
    Dude, screw your alliance lol.

    It's not uncommon / unfair for an alliance to carry a player who has a poor score in pve or pvp if he's scoring well in the other, but it is unfair to hold a player back to t500 rewards when he's earning t100/t50. Get a new alliance lol.
  • MarvelMan
    MarvelMan Posts: 1,350
    As to the etiquette.....while not ideal, its generally accepted. There is some benefit to the alliance for you to go out, get the cover and come back so its not all bad. Just be up front with the commander. PM them here, or in chat if you are comfortable. If you dont say anything before you do it, expect them to be less pleased than if you had discussed it.
  • rednailz
    rednailz Posts: 559
    The fact that you're asking before doing would be a positive example to a potential alliance. if I ran one I'd look at taking you on for having a little courtesy.

    If you just recently joined, just let them know you will be mercing and move on to an alliance that can get the extra cover for you. You might not get a permanent slot, but you can easily find another top 200 alliance and just give them more of a heads up if the sitation arises again.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    dswan3rd wrote:
    So I'm relatively new to being in an alliance, and the extra rewards here and there (HP/ISO/Tokens) have been nice, but I'm wondering what the rules or expectations are in terms of...allegiance I guess?
    Every alliance should have specific, defined requirements for each event. If they do, and you were aware that they did not stress PvE at all, you should stay until the event is over, because you knew what you were getting into. If they do, and a load of people are not meeting the requirements, or if they don't, you should leave immediately, because they sound like a very poorly-organized, poorly-run group.
  • dswan3rd
    dswan3rd Posts: 205 Tile Toppler
    @fmftint - I just PM'd a few members that posted in that thread looking for a Merc.

    @revizion - I've been at it for awhile (wanna say I'm somewhere in the 230s in terms of days) but only recently looked into alliances. It always "seemed" like more involvement than I had time for, but even the small amount of "extras" I've gotten so far have helped.

    @Arondite - LOL. Point well taken.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    As a commander of a top 100 PVE alliance, I think it's a two-way street: players need to meet the scoring expectations of the alliance and the commanders need to ensure that the alliance scores what's needed for the desired reward level. We have a minimum score (currently 1.25x the top progression award) that all members must meet or risk being kicked, but if we were to start letting people slide on the scores and dropped out of the top 100, I wouldn't be upset with top scorers for leaving to find a better alliance.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I don't think etiquette even matters because if you got an alliance doesn't care they wouldn't miss you anyway, and if they do care they'll definitely remember too. From all the equivalent of a guild structure in all the games I've played, the only way you can have a smooth breakup is if nobody cared about your presence. If you're valuable in any way, people will remember when you leave.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    It's not complicated. Communicate with your commander. They should say it's okay to merc just for the rewards this event and then let you come right back.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    If there's little communication between you and the alliance (the alliance I'm in - which I am a commander of - uses the app LINE as it's superior to in-game chat), than you nor the alliance should be too broken up about anyone leaving suddenly. If the alliance is already lagging in the 200 category than your points won't be a huge difference in terms of what the reward is since the cover is already out of reach. It would be much more frowned upon to hop when the alliance is within the 100 range. Best thing is probably to send a message to your commander, though if you hop you shouldn't necessarily expect a place within your old alliance once the PVE is over unless you and the commander state as much.
  • jimstarooney
    jimstarooney Posts: 576 Critical Contributor
    If they are real life friends or people that u have been in an alliance with for a bit then tell them you might be leaving and maybethe ones that do pull their weight will follow.if you are the only one pulling your weight then you are better off with like minded people working towards the same goal.you owe no allegiance to these people and they are holding u back.if u feel any guilt about it just think of all the times they have earned any rewards however minimal from piggy backing you.
  • danae
    danae Posts: 101
    If they're Top 200 in the event, you leaving doesn't really make much of an impact in their rewards. As a long time merc, I would normally inform the alliance in chat what my intentions are if the group was actively trying to make Top 100 but wouldn't be able to make it. If the alliance was close to getting Top 100 I would stay and help out, otherwise, I would take my score somewhere else where another alliance would be able to better benefit (as well as myself) icon_e_smile.gif.
  • Wobby
    Wobby Posts: 286 Mover and Shaker
    Don't be a jerk.
    That's about all there is to it.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Depends. But whatever your decision, communicate with the alliance leaders.

    Is the alliance a good fit for you most events? Then ask to merc for this event and come back.

    Have you outgrown the alliance or does your play style not fit the alliance? Thank them for having you and find a new home.

    Think about what you can realistically contribute to an alliance and search accordingly. There are alliances that have targets at all levels of PvE and/or PvP. The forums here are a great place to find a new home and many alliances have spots open in between seasons
  • evil panda
    evil panda Posts: 419 Mover and Shaker
    a little notice would be nice. and trying not to leave them totally hanging or blindsided. basically, the way you would want to be treated if the shoe were on the the other foot.
  • Der_Lex
    Der_Lex Posts: 1,035 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alliance etiquette 101:

    - Always extend the pinky finger on your left hand when shielding.

    - If a senior alliance member attacks you in an event, the proper response is: "Thank you, sir/madam, may I have another?". If a junior alliance member attacks you in an event, your wrath may be as swift and terrible as desired.

    - Don't post any disparaging remarks about the mothers of your alliance commanders in alliance chat. That is what public forums are for.

    - If an alliance member requests a team-up, don't be 'that guy' and send Yelena. Sending Bag-Man, however, is a sign of excellent taste and is highly encouraged.

    If you live by these simple rules, you too will be counted amongst the dapperest of MPQ gentlemen in no time.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Kicked two members tonight for not having minimum, well-publicized score of 35K for Prodigal Sun. Show some respect and get the score early - don't make your commanders have to guess if you're going to make a last-minute push. At least post in the chat. I started on Saturday afternoon, played 2.5 subs, no grinding, and scored 70K - 33K is an insult.
  • El Satanno
    El Satanno Posts: 1,005 Chairperson of the Boards
    Great, now you guys have me thinking about leaving the alliance I helped found... icon_e_sad.gif
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Bad etiquette is leaving your alliance 1 hour before the end of the season when it is still on course to make the top-100 icon_mad.gif

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