need help spending money!

konannfriends
konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
edited March 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
So Its tax season I'm sure we can all afford to dip into out wallets a bit.

I'm going to spend 50 bucks WITCH is the equivalent to 6 3* covers with 1000 left over so I was looking for some advice on who to use it on

Here's my pending roster.

icon_mystique.png 4 purpleflag.png ,2 blueflag.png ,1 blackflag.png
icon_gamora.png 3 greenflag.png ,2 redflag.png ,2 blackflag.png
icon_colossus_new.png 2 yellowflag.png ,1 redflag.png ,2 blackflag.png
icon_captainamerica.png 3 yellowflag.png ,4 redflag.png ,2 blueflag.png
icon_wolverine.png ( Patch ) 1 greenflag.png ,1 redflag.png ,5 yellowflag.png
icon_wolverine.png ( Tier horce) 2 greenflag.png ,2 blackflag.png ,2 yellowflag.png
icon_ragnarok.png 3 greenflag.png
icon_invisiblewoman.png 1 yellowflag.png ,1 blueflag.png ,2 greenflag.png


Every one else either has less that 5 covers or I don't want yo spend on them ( Hulk, Falcon)

Ragnorak and Inv woman are on the list because Ragnorok will probably have a Power surge ability after the upcoming season. And there's no way you can screw up a buffing inv woman again. I though they'd be great investments. I'm sure I could pick up the rest of xforce without spending but I put hom on the list anyway
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  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Three X-Force black covers, and I don't think it's remotely close.
  • I would not buy covers for any of those.
  • wirius
    wirius Posts: 667
    Do you want a max character for PvE or PvP? If PvP, lazy cap, no question. I also think he's fairly decent climbing up in PvP, and he's great at the Deadpool survival nodes. Yeah, no matter what, you probably want Lazy cap. If you have the money to max green and black for X-force, do it. Dont' question. It is the pay to win of this game. If you're not willing to do that, then second I would level either Mystique, or Patch. You only need two green on patch, and 1 red and 3 blue on Cap, so that would be your six covers there. Hope that helps!
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    Three X-Force black covers, and I don't think it's remotely close.
    IceIX wrote:
    Ragnarok was all ready to go at the start of this season, freshly buffed with new programming inserted by a black ops tech team in Korea funded by H.A.M.M.E.R. Unfortunately, when it came time to provide initial power, one of the techs didn't pay attention to the manual and didn't use a 240->120V downstep converter. Back into the shop went Ragnarok...
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    wirius wrote:
    Do you want a max character for PvE or PvP? If PvP, lazy cap, no question. I also think he's fairly decent climbing up in PvP, and he's great at the Deadpool survival nodes. Yeah, no matter what, you probably want Lazy cap. If you have the money to max green and black for X-force, do it. Dont' question. It is the pay to win of this game. If you're not willing to do that, then second I would level either Mystique, or Patch. You only need two green on patch, and 1 red and 3 blue on Cap, so that would be your six covers there. Hope that helps!

    Well I do fine in PvE I'm generally always top 10 effortlessly. I will say I usually cannot get past 500-650 I usually hit the spot where I see really op characters like black panther , patch, Luke cage. Or 270 teams. And the 3 characters I have don't have the health to get more than 120 points per grind and that's if I don't lose( get smacked by xforce)( rage if the black guy)( curb stomped by a hammer). And even then people say not to shield til 700 so I don't and I end up losing around 40 points maybe more. Abd it just ends up being a circle of 575-660-638- 612-sleep-598-630-loss-603 and so on
  • Zen808
    Zen808 Posts: 260
    Buy a $50 iTunes / Google Play gift card and bank it. Wait for an HP sale.

    None of those characters whose name doesn't rhyme with Mex Horse will help you in PVP. Like NP said, 5 in black is amazing.

    Having 5 in Red and/or Blue for Lazy Cap makes him invaluable in PVE, because he can now help get rid of those pesky Countdown tiles.

    The game is about breadth, not depth. You'll do better having a solid core of 6-8 guys you can rely upon, than having one monster character and a bunch of guys who drop when the wind blows the wrong way. See: LeBron last year.
  • babinro
    babinro Posts: 771 Critical Contributor
    Spend $100.00 on Stark Salary.

    Seriously, if you're going to spend money get the better value. You ought to know the rate you get HP in this game...that 'free' bonus HP is well worth the price.

    From there I'd buy 3 green and 3 black X-Force covers. You don't even need to level the guy much he'll be instantly amazing and useful for every game format that exists. I'd then save the rest of the HP for roster slots but buy them as they become necessary should you need the HP for other things over time.

    If you're set on $50.00 and you're set on buying covers with it I'd lean towards buying 1 Captain America red, 1 Mystique purple and 4 Mystique Black.

    Why?

    Caps drawback is the amount of AP to get him going. Maxing Mystiques purple will help with this as well as help control enemy AP gain better making matches a bit easier. The reason I recommend Mystique black over caps blue is so that you have a duo where both players can contribute offensively. This offers a more well rounded team and one that benefits more from ISO AP boosts.
  • orbitalint
    orbitalint Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    I'm going to have to disagree, babinro. Mystique is a second tier role player. I have her and like her but she comes of the bench only occasionally. Her (broken) synergy is with mnmags. Her ap steal is a nice to have but her low hp means she is goon only or vs characters, doesn't stay alive long enough to make the ap steal worthwhile. We're talking maybe 8 ap steal per game assuming they are even matching colors you need. It's a stall tactic, not a consistent source of ap. She is not hood and her best ability is blue to make cascades into shapeshift/masterstroke. Or pair her with mnmags and just do an infinite loop.

    Cap is infinitely more useful in pve, more generally. Once he gets going, he can solo most games if he had to. Go with him at 3/5/5 and 5 black xf and it will serve you very well. My 3/5/3 xf makes for extreme fun most matches. I don't know what that comes to but 5 black xf, red cap, blue cap would be my priority to buy with your roster.

    Also agree with other posts and to an extent babs, wait for an hp sale if you are set on spending and get the pack that makes sense to your willingness to spend. I'm not plunking down 100 at a time on this game but it is the best value and gets even better of a value during their infrequent HP sales.
  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,487 Chairperson of the Boards
    Instead of spending $50, I'd spend $100 and make a 5/5/x X-force. I don't think it's worth spending money on 3*'s in this 4* world.
  • I would personally recommend purchasing roster slots, to about 65-70. That way any HP you earn for a while can go to shields, etc without having to worry about scraping HP togthwer for new characters.
  • babinro
    babinro Posts: 771 Critical Contributor
    orbitalint wrote:
    I'm going to have to disagree, babinro. Mystique is a second tier role player. I have her and like her but she comes of the bench only occasionally. Her (broken) synergy is with mnmags. Her ap steal is a nice to have but her low hp means she is goon only or vs characters, doesn't stay alive long enough to make the ap steal worthwhile. We're talking maybe 8 ap steal per game assuming they are even matching colors you need. It's a stall tactic, not a consistent source of ap. She is not hood and her best ability is blue to make cascades into shapeshift/masterstroke. Or pair her with mnmags and just do an infinite loop.

    I agree that Mystique is second tier. My recommendation was solely based on the the requirements of spending $50.00 and buying 6 covers. I feel that my suggestion would get the greatest immediate impact. This is especially true because it's a rainbow team of sorts and you wont get completely screwed if the map comes up red shy to activate cap.

    That said, I have no personal experience with the infinite loop that people have talked about. If the infinite loop is actually reliable than it would stand to reason that this combo is better than anything else in the game, right? I realize Thor/XForce are super strong but denying your opponents any future turns is better for everything but shield hops.

    I'm guessing this combo has some drawbacks or is an health pack sink but I could be wrong.
  • orbitalint
    orbitalint Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    Mnmags and stique is a low damage output proposition. It'll win a match but takes a while and is laughable in PvP.

    For those six 3* covers, you can get the rest of the xf black and that will be far more versatile to play and better served over the long haul.
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    orbitalint wrote:
    I'm going to have to disagree, babinro. Mystique is a second tier role player. I have her and like her but she comes of the bench only occasionally. Her (broken) synergy is with mnmags. Her ap steal is a nice to have but her low hp means she is goon only or vs characters, doesn't stay alive long enough to make the ap steal worthwhile. We're talking maybe 8 ap steal per game assuming they are even matching colors you need. It's a stall tactic, not a consistent source of ap. She is not hood and her best ability is blue to make cascades into shapeshift/masterstroke. Or pair her with mnmags and just do an infinite loop.

    Cap is infinitely more useful in pve, more generally. Once he gets going, he can solo most games if he had to. Go with him at 3/5/5 and 5 black xf and it will serve you very well. My 3/5/3 xf makes for extreme fun most matches. I don't know what that comes to but 5 black xf, red cap, blue cap would be my priority to buy with your roster.

    Also agree with other posts and to an extent babs, wait for an hp sale if you are set on spending and get the pack that makes sense to your willingness to spend. I'm not plunking down 100 at a time on this game but it is the best value and gets even better of a value during their infrequent HP sales.

    Even though Mystique is B tier she is at the top of it. If she hadn't been given the storm treatment. She would be A tier. Her 8ap builds really fast and once to get it one you seem to constantly get it. Plus I think if I got her I'd run 4,4,5 cuz her NUKE seems lovely. I would just need someone who could tank black. Overall she's a perfectly balanced character and is she had even been given 6800 shed be perfect.
    I think she'd be a good defense if she was paired with someone like sentry or THOR.
  • orbitalint wrote:
    I'm going to have to disagree, babinro. Mystique is a second tier role player. I have her and like her but she comes of the bench only occasionally. Her (broken) synergy is with mnmags. Her ap steal is a nice to have but her low hp means she is goon only or vs characters, doesn't stay alive long enough to make the ap steal worthwhile. We're talking maybe 8 ap steal per game assuming they are even matching colors you need. It's a stall tactic, not a consistent source of ap. She is not hood and her best ability is blue to make cascades into shapeshift/masterstroke. Or pair her with mnmags and just do an infinite loop.

    Cap is infinitely more useful in pve, more generally. Once he gets going, he can solo most games if he had to. Go with him at 3/5/5 and 5 black xf and it will serve you very well. My 3/5/3 xf makes for extreme fun most matches. I don't know what that comes to but 5 black xf, red cap, blue cap would be my priority to buy with your roster.

    Also agree with other posts and to an extent babs, wait for an hp sale if you are set on spending and get the pack that makes sense to your willingness to spend. I'm not plunking down 100 at a time on this game but it is the best value and gets even better of a value during their infrequent HP sales.

    Even though Mystique is B tier she is at the top of it. If she hadn't been given the storm treatment. She would be A tier. Her 8ap builds really fast and once to get it one you seem to constantly get it. Plus I think if I got her I'd run 4,4,5 cuz her NUKE seems lovely. I would just need someone who could tank black. Overall she's a perfectly balanced character and is she had even been given 6800 shed be perfect.
    I think she'd be a good defense if she was paired with someone like sentry or THOR.

    I would disagree on her being a good defensive pair with Thor or Sentry because her blue ability is going to take away red/green/yellow from those guys. And not only that but the ai isn't going to play for you the way you play and strategize your game. The ai isn't going to try and infinite loop or any other combo that you might try if you were controlling your characters.

    As for spending money, I would buy the iTunes or google play card and wait until they run some kind of hp sale. And then spend it on XForce.
  • Wait... People would buy 3* covers over 4*? Also, work for the goals you want (in any game) instead of just buying your way to victory
  • orbitalint
    orbitalint Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    The ai isn't going to try and infinite loop or any other combo that you might try if you were controlling your characters.
    Unfortunately, this ^^. The AI doesn't care about when to use an ability. There is no combo on defense and the ai will use the abilities as soon as they have enough ap. I've never even seen a mystique in the wild in PvP except in her featured event.

    As for what you want to do, it's your money but look at the forums... Which character is considered an all around bad tinykitty? It's not mystique. Like you said, she is fun to play with but overall has too little health to be generally effective. I just don't want this thread used as evidence against me that someone somehow advocated for her over xf covers. icon_e_biggrin.gif best of luck to you either way.
  • orbitalint wrote:
    The ai isn't going to try and infinite loop or any other combo that you might try if you were controlling your characters.
    Unfortunately, this ^^. The AI doesn't care about when to use an ability. There is no combo on defense and the ai will use the abilities as soon as they have enough ap. I've never even seen a mystique in the wild in PvP except in her featured event.

    As for what you want to do, it's your money but look at the forums... Which character is considered an all around bad tinykitty? It's not mystique. Like you said, she is fun to play with but overall has too little health to be generally effective. I just don't want this thread used as evidence against me that someone somehow advocated for her over xf covers. icon_e_biggrin.gif best of luck to you either way.
    Add doc ock to that list. At least i see iw and rags once in a blue moon...
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    orbitalint wrote:
    I'm going to have to disagree, babinro. Mystique is a second tier role player. I have her and like her but she comes of the bench only occasionally. Her (broken) synergy is with mnmags. Her ap steal is a nice to have but her low hp means she is goon only or vs characters, doesn't stay alive long enough to make the ap steal worthwhile. We're talking maybe 8 ap steal per game assuming they are even matching colors you need. It's a stall tactic, not a consistent source of ap. She is not hood and her best ability is blue to make cascades into shapeshift/masterstroke. Or pair her with mnmags and just do an infinite loop.

    Cap is infinitely more useful in pve, more generally. Once he gets going, he can solo most games if he had to. Go with him at 3/5/5 and 5 black xf and it will serve you very well. My 3/5/3 xf makes for extreme fun most matches. I don't know what that comes to but 5 black xf, red cap, blue cap would be my priority to buy with your roster.

    Also agree with other posts and to an extent babs, wait for an hp sale if you are set on spending and get the pack that makes sense to your willingness to spend. I'm not plunking down 100 at a time on this game but it is the best value and gets even better of a value during their infrequent HP sales.

    Even though Mystique is B tier she is at the top of it. If she hadn't been given the storm treatment. She would be A tier. Her 8ap builds really fast and once to get it one you seem to constantly get it. Plus I think if I got her I'd run 4,4,5 cuz her NUKE seems lovely. I would just need someone who could tank black. Overall she's a perfectly balanced character and is she had even been given 6800 shed be perfect.
    I think she'd be a good defense if she was paired with someone like sentry or THOR.

    I would disagree on her being a good defensive pair with Thor or Sentry because her blue ability is going to take away red/green/yellow from those guys. And not only that but the ai isn't going to play for you the way you play and strategize your game. The ai isn't going to try and infinite loop or any other combo that you might try if you were controlling your characters.

    As for spending money, I would buy the iTunes or google play card and wait until they run some kind of hp sale. And then spend it on XForce.

    Why wait for an hp sale I don't remember there ever being a significant amount of hp difference.... Plus I want a shiny new developed toy. Plus I wanna do better that top points in PvP I wanna consistently nab that 1000 4*. But since a lot of you are saying wait I guess I will
  • Depending on how much you love the game I'm not sure spending 100$ is worth it. But if you are so inclined than I would Max xf green and black. Cap red and blue second choice. Mystique is good when paired with mmags, I'd call her even high tier only against goons since she can deal with those lvl 300 +goons, with endless turns and cascades.
  • Why wait for an hp sale I don't remember there ever being a significant amount of hp difference.... Plus I want a shiny new developed toy. Plus I wanna do better that top points in PvP I wanna consistently nab that 1000 4*. But since a lot of you are saying wait I guess I will

    Last HP sale was +30%. If you buy the $100 package, that's 6,000 more HP. That's two 4* covers and a roster slot or two (depending on how big your roster is) for free. I've still got $100 worth of gift cards in my wallet from Christmas waiting for a sale.