[POLL] Who to vault for SeasonXII

ballingbees
ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
edited February 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
Sister poll to the other one, let's pick who you would not miss for SeasonXII.
Omitting the guys previously vaulted: Magneto, Thor, Punisher, Doom, Torch, Daredevil, Loki, Patch
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  • h4n1s
    h4n1s Posts: 427 Mover and Shaker
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...
  • ballingbees
    ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...

    Vaulting Susan means slightly minuscule better odds of drawing the other 4*s.
    And more importantly, it allows devs to "work on her outside the spotlight".
  • h4n1s
    h4n1s Posts: 427 Mover and Shaker
    ballingbees wrote:
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...

    Vaulting Susan means slightly minuscule better odds of drawing the other 4*s.
    And more importantly, it allows devs to "work on her outside the spotlight".

    As mentioned in your other thread, vaulting is bad workaround to 'solve' the issue with token odds... 'working on her outside of spotlight' is just a nice statement, but not much beneficial to players, nor to devs. Taking someone out of the rotation is just frustrating for those who miss few covers for maxing them out. Vaulting of Steve, Punisher, CMags, BPanther made no sense at all and did not fit to that statement. The only guys benefiting of such vaulting are those who either don't care of the character OR have them already fully covered.
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    h4n1s wrote:
    ballingbees wrote:
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...

    Vaulting Susan means slightly minuscule better odds of drawing the other 4*s.
    And more importantly, it allows devs to "work on her outside the spotlight".

    As mentioned in your other thread, vaulting is bad workaround to 'solve' the issue with token odds... 'working on her outside of spotlight' is just a nice statement, but not much beneficial to players, nor to devs. Taking someone out of the rotation is just frustrating for those who miss few covers for maxing them out. Vaulting of Steve, Punisher, CMags, BPanther made no sense at all and did not fit to that statement. The only guys benefiting of such vaulting are those who either don't care of the character OR have them already fully covered.

    Stahp complaining. vaulting is the most logical answer to the huge and still growing roster ... i mean if you have a better idea then pls post icon_e_biggrin.gif t
  • ballingbees
    ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    h4n1s wrote:
    Vaulting of Steve, Punisher, CMags, BPanther made no sense at all and did not fit to that statement.
    THIS.

    That "out of spotlight" reasoning is just plain downright.... not very convincing. I quoted it in irony, btw. I hope HiFi's next rotation announcement will have a new phrase that is slightly more plausible.
  • Mawtful
    Mawtful Posts: 1,646 Chairperson of the Boards
    Sentry, Spider-Man, Squirrel Girl, Storm, Falcon.
  • hurcules
    hurcules Posts: 519
    Spidey, Sentry, Hood, Gamora, IW.
  • h4n1s
    h4n1s Posts: 427 Mover and Shaker
    konannfriends wrote:
    Stahp complaining. vaulting is the most logical answer to the huge and still growing roster ... i mean if you have a better idea then pls post icon_e_biggrin.gif t

    There's been a lot of ideas on this... already.

    Let me just pick one as example - heroic token can be utilized on themed packs. Meaning you get 1 heroic token you can use it for either Villains or Heroes. Suddenly you have smaller set of characters per token, making the odds OK even if the amount of characters released is growing. Or devs could build the themes based on color sets (characters with strongest Green and Black skills; characters with Red and Yellow ...etc.). It's not a rocket science and nobody owns patent for this...
  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,487 Chairperson of the Boards
    Spidey, Sentry, Storm, Hood - all we've gotten lots of covers from lately, none have been vaulted yet.

    I don't think they should vault 4*, so few of them. When did they start vaulting 3*, when there were 25? Vault 4* then. Fix IW without taking her out of packs in the meantime.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...
    Of course it does. If they vault the characters you have fully covered, there's a better chance of getting a cover you need.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I don't see any reason to think that they're going to start vaulting 4*s. I think they want there to be a bunch of them so that it's harder to build one from tokens.
  • h4n1s
    h4n1s Posts: 427 Mover and Shaker
    simonsez wrote:
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...
    Of course it does. If they vault the characters you have fully covered, there's a better chance of getting a cover you need.

    I don't want to repeat myself... Certainly there's a better approach how to improve the odds in tokens then by vaulting characters people with roster like you don't need, while cutting off characters which people with rosters like me need. Vaulting has negative effects for some, while positive effects for others. Why not to seek for win-win scenario instead?
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    h4n1s wrote:
    Why not to seek for win-win scenario instead?
    From the dev's perspective, if you still need 1 or 2 covers of a character that's been vaulted, you're probably a lot more likely to buy them rather than wait. So that'd probably have a lot to do with the answer you're looking for.
  • Ebolamonkey84
    Ebolamonkey84 Posts: 509 Critical Contributor
    h4n1s wrote:
    simonsez wrote:
    h4n1s wrote:
    noone, vaulting doesn't help anybody...
    Of course it does. If they vault the characters you have fully covered, there's a better chance of getting a cover you need.

    I don't want to repeat myself... Certainly there's a better approach how to improve the odds in tokens then by vaulting characters people with roster like you don't need, while cutting off characters which people with rosters like me need. Vaulting has negative effects for some, while positive effects for others. Why not to seek for win-win scenario instead?

    Simon never said there wasn't a better solution; he was just pointing out that your original post was inaccurate due to the fact that it does help some people. That's why I try to avoid using absolutes.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Mo Storm and Hood for sure. It feels like their rewards have come up more than anyone else. It's time to get some other people in their.

    For a third, I said Falcon over Spidey. Either one would be fine though.
  • TheViceroy
    TheViceroy Posts: 82 Match Maker
    I just picked the three worst 3 star characters.

    Sentry
    Spider-Man
    Storm

    Seems like most others did as well judging by the results.
  • CrookedKnight
    CrookedKnight Posts: 2,579 Chairperson of the Boards
    h4n1s wrote:
    konannfriends wrote:
    Stahp complaining. vaulting is the most logical answer to the huge and still growing roster ... i mean if you have a better idea then pls post icon_e_biggrin.gif t

    There's been a lot of ideas on this... already.

    Let me just pick one as example - heroic token can be utilized on themed packs. Meaning you get 1 heroic token you can use it for either Villains or Heroes. Suddenly you have smaller set of characters per token, making the odds OK even if the amount of characters released is growing. Or devs could build the themes based on color sets (characters with strongest Green and Black skills; characters with Red and Yellow ...etc.). It's not a rocket science and nobody owns patent for this...

    They shot down that exact suggestion in the latest Q&A as too complicated for people who don't follow the forums or obsessively check token odds. You can still say it would be a good idea, but it's definitely not happening.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    There are 5 characters who existed before vaulting started that have never been vaulted. I chose 4/5 of them which include falcon, storm, sentry, and spiderman. The 5th character is hood but i don't want him vaulted, so i chose invisible woman because i assume they will eventually vault 4* characters.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Gamora, Spiderman, IW, SG

    MPQ missing out on $$$ by not improving IW. Many of us can easily push for 1k in PVP but with IW as reward there is no point.
  • konannfriends
    konannfriends Posts: 246 Tile Toppler
    Switchman wrote:
    Gamora, Spiderman, IW, SG

    MPQ missing out on $$$ by not improving IW. Many of us can easily push for 1k in PVP but with IW as reward there is no point.

    most likely she will get buffed when Mr. Fanstastic is released. like how daredevil got buffed?/nerfed? when elktra was released

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