Roster Help (Road to PVP1000)

Unknown

I've got a dilemma and could use some advice from some more experienced players, on the road to PVP 1000. These are my main roster characters:

Patch 2/3/5 (lvl98)
Doctor Doom 3/5/2 (40)
Daredevil 2/4/2 (40)

LThor 2/3/2 (soon 2/4/2 with season progression, lvl 98) Edit Typo: lvl 89
Hood 4/3/2 (55)

Other notables:
Blade 4/4/3 (94)
Luke Cage 3/2/3 (70)
Loki 1/4/2 (40)

Current Iso: 11412, HP: 2775

My initial strategy was to save tokens and open them this season, for LThor covers and buyout the rest. However, the RNG gods have not smiled upon me.

So my main question is, whether Patch and either DD are good enough to hit PVP 1000? I read that Thor/Hood can take me there, but I'm not sure that patch combos are good enough defensively. If they are, I would rather save my HP, earmarked for thor.

I have an iso shortage, because I found the game too slow and decided to take a gamble on standard tokens, to keep my interest in the game. My standard token opening luck has been pretty amazing, but I wouldn't count on it continuing. Pretty much I want to only dump iso into characters that can take me into 4* land.

Basically, should I go with a Patch or Thor combo?


An aside:
I wanted to wait and see if Daily PVE's will change the game, to influence whether I should buy more slots to board a new essential gravytrain (35 slots currently). However, it seems like D3 is going to take their time and rollout could take awhile.

Bowgentle

First and foremost, you need ISO.
Lots of ISO.
A TON OF ISO.

Second, you're missing crucial covers. A lot of them.

Forget Daredevil, he won't get you any skips.
Forget Patch, especially in conjunction with Daredevil. Maxed teams will eat you alive once past 700.

Sorry, but you're not going to get 1K in PVP anytime soon, and even if you did - what are you going to do with your shiny new 4* char that will take 250K+ ISO to be playable?

Take your time, work on getting important covers (Hood blue, Loki green, Blade green, LT green) and concentrate on getting useable 3*s first.
You're not ready for the 4* game yet.

simonsez

LT is probably too slow to deal with the maxed Xf/GT combos you'd be looking at. Patch with Loki/DD or Hulk is probably your best option.

dr tinykittylove

I'd focus on building your 3* roster first, the 4*s will take forever to collect even if you can hit 1k regularly, and most of their abilities only become good at 4-5 covers. Getting strong 3*s will be your bread and butter for a long time - aim for 600 first, then 725, 800, 900. Natural progressions that will strengthen your roster, and the rest will come.

Have a good alliance to pick up bonus covers and hp whenever you can.

I'm also waiting hopefully to see how the daily pve will work, I have such terrible token luck.

Unknown

Anyone know about how high you can expect to climb with Patch/Doom both at 166?

Unknown

Thanks everyone,

So from what I've gathered, it probably takes a patch combo to shield my way up to the higher end of points.
But to get them to usable levels, I probably need to place higher in pvp, to earn and accumulate more resources/iso.


So my follow-up questions would be:

Is there a significant point decrease in an unshielded team of thor/hood vs patch combo? Leading me to max thor first

Or would it be more worthwhile to max patch combo first, to hop and shield. spend some hp to get more iso rewards.

simonsez

Kriegerbot wrote:

Or would it be more worthwhile to max patch combo first, to hop and shield. spend some hp to get more iso rewards.

Don't spend HP to get ISO. The difference between ISO prizes in PvP is the equivalent of what you can make in 5 minutes of a lightning round. Do those instead.

Unknown

Kriegerbot wrote:

Thanks everyone,

So from what I've gathered, it probably takes a patch combo to shield my way up to the higher end of points.
But to get them to usable levels, I probably need to place higher in pvp, to earn and accumulate more resources/iso.


So my follow-up questions would be:

Is there a significant point decrease in an unshielded team of thor/hood vs patch combo? Leading me to max thor first

Or would it be more worthwhile to max patch combo first, to hop and shield. spend some hp to get more iso rewards.

Don't know how you play PvP, but I tend to sit around 500 or 550 until the 3 hour mark, push with 5 healthpacks as fast as I can and shield for 3 hours. Unless you are pushing for an extra cover that would be very valuable, any more shielding than that is a waste of HP.

PvP - Covers
PvE - Covers, Iso
LR - Iso

As you can see, there are 2 events to get covers, 2 events to get Iso, but no event to earn significant HP. You do not want to waste HP without a significant expected return.

To use a 75hp shield to secure a top100 finish, you gain 25hp and a cover for placement and another 50hp for top250 alliance (plus a cover in a top100 alliance). So this pays for itself. But to add a 150hp shield on top of that, you would need a top25 finish which would require at least 725 points, which is likely out of reach where you are at currently.

For now focus on 575 points and top100, then focus on 650 and top50, and so on. As your roster gets stronger, it will be easier to hit your targets on one shield.

Unknown

papa07 wrote:

Kriegerbot wrote:

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Don't know how you play PvP, but I tend to sit around 500 or 550 until the 3 hour mark, push with 5 healthpacks as fast as I can and shield for 3 hours. Unless you are pushing for an extra cover that would be very valuable, any more shielding than that is a waste of HP.

PvP - Covers
PvE - Covers, Iso
LR - Iso

As you can see, there are 2 events to get covers, 2 events to get Iso, but no event to earn significant HP. You do not want to waste HP without a significant expected return.

To use a 75hp shield to secure a top100 finish, you gain 25hp and a cover for placement and another 50hp for top250 alliance (plus a cover in a top100 alliance). So this pays for itself. But to add a 150hp shield on top of that, you would need a top25 finish which would require at least 725 points, which is likely out of reach where you are at currently.

For now focus on 575 points and top100, then focus on 650 and top50, and so on. As your roster gets stronger, it will be easier to hit your targets on one shield.

I assumed that I could still stay Top100 with thor and hood unshielded at the end, so I could save the shield hp. Is that unlikely?

If there's a nice cover, I contemplate shielding, if it looks like I have a chance. But usually competition is fierce, so its a coin toss.
However, if it's just a bad reward, I can usually hit 575 and walkaway with 50 hp. Don't really feel the need to shield and risk getting boot out of T100 at the end.

h4n1s

Kriegerbot wrote:

papa07 wrote:

Kriegerbot wrote:

words

Don't know how you play PvP, but I tend to sit around 500 or 550 until the 3 hour mark, push with 5 healthpacks as fast as I can and shield for 3 hours. Unless you are pushing for an extra cover that would be very valuable, any more shielding than that is a waste of HP.

PvP - Covers
PvE - Covers, Iso
LR - Iso

As you can see, there are 2 events to get covers, 2 events to get Iso, but no event to earn significant HP. You do not want to waste HP without a significant expected return.

To use a 75hp shield to secure a top100 finish, you gain 25hp and a cover for placement and another 50hp for top250 alliance (plus a cover in a top100 alliance). So this pays for itself. But to add a 150hp shield on top of that, you would need a top25 finish which would require at least 725 points, which is likely out of reach where you are at currently.

For now focus on 575 points and top100, then focus on 650 and top50, and so on. As your roster gets stronger, it will be easier to hit your targets on one shield.

I assumed that I could still stay Top100 with thor and hood unshielded at the end, so I could save the shield hp. Is that unlikely?

If there's a nice cover, I contemplate shielding, if it looks like I have a chance. But usually competition is fierce, so its a coin toss.
However, if it's just a bad reward, I can usually hit 575 and walkaway with 50 hp. Don't really feel the need to shield and risk getting boot out of T100 at the end.

You'd get some skips if both Hood and LThor are maxed covered in ideal build and ideally both on 166. But there's no guarantee

Unknown

Kriegerbot wrote:

I assumed that I could still stay Top100 with thor and hood unshielded at the end, so I could save the shield hp. Is that unlikely?

If there's a nice cover, I contemplate shielding, if it looks like I have a chance. But usually competition is fierce, so its a coin toss.
However, if it's just a bad reward, I can usually hit 575 and walkaway with 50 hp. Don't really feel the need to shield and risk getting boot out of T100 at the end.

Depends on the event concerning individual top100, but the difference between shielding at 625 or staying unshielded and going down to 575 could easily be the difference between being in a top100 alliance or a top250 alliance.

rednailz

Mau-- wrote:

Anyone know about how high you can expect to climb with Patch/Doom both at 166?

Maybe around 700 if you shield a decent amount?

Unknown

rednailz wrote:

Mau-- wrote:

Anyone know about how high you can expect to climb with Patch/Doom both at 166?

Maybe around 700 if you shield a decent amount?

I just got to 656 in the spiderman PvP fighting one lvl 206 XForce, one lvl 166 LThor with a 94 OBW and no other 166s. AT that point I decided to wait until much nearer the end before doing a climb to a shield (was 36h ish out). So the idea you can only get to 700 with shields if you have a 166 Patch and Doom is probably a bit off. I think it's likely you could climb to 700-750 in one go if you don't start skipping away easy fights because they aren't worth a ton of fights then shield hop if you felt the urge, although hopping with a somewhat slow team is a bit risky.

It would require you to shield upon hitting that kind of score though, or your points will be stolen.

Wonko33

know your limits is my advice

figure out what you can get everytime ( top 50.. top 100... ?)
get there , time it so that you have 3 hours left and shield
it would be great if you could reach 725 then you are neutral HP from progression and get some positive for top 100 placement, but if you can't you can't

If you try to over reach you will get burned and lose all your progress/time/efforts

Get those 3* covers - save your HP -

that's how I did it, still doing it that way too.