What if? (some fun conversation)

Phaserhawk

What if 4hor and X-Force are gone, what would be the best PvP duo, and what would be the strongest Simulator comp?

I was trying to figure this out the other day while I was driving to work. I figure that it would entail at least Loki/Hood for sure in the Simulator, as for top PvP duo?

I think top PvP duo if X-Force and 4hor were gone would probably be 3* Thor/Hood or Loki

the other might be some kind of Patch combo. I could see Patch/Daredevil or Patch/Squirrel Girl as possible quick kill scenarios,

Thoughts?

Unknown

(Stealing from Locked), GSBW/Hood/L Cap.

Actually, it would probably be 355 Sentry/544 Laken/355 Hood. Granted, I sold Sentry myself (twice), but that's because I had 4or to replace his function in PVP.

I actually do not know why people moved off of Sentry. If you Sentry-bombed using a 553 hood (like I did); then, after the nerf, a 355 Hood would keep the combo about the same speed with one exception. If you full boosted, you needed two green matches instead of just one. That's it. Otherwise, the combo (especially in PVE) would have been just as effective.

Lots of spelling edits.

Trisul

I'm assuming Patch/Hulk will be fairly dominant, at least on offense. They'd probably be pretty annoying to fight as a defensive team as well (especially since XF is the strongest Hulk counter).

Running Hood/Loki/{dps} is pretty hilarious. Opponents never have AP. LThor, Fury, Cap, CMags work really well in that comp.

rednailz

Patch/Laken/BP
Patch/Loki/Hulk
Lthor/Blade (or Laken)/Hood (?)

Unknown

You're probably going to have a triangle inequality between:

1. Fury or Star-Lord/Loki or The Hood/Thor (standard straight up balanced team, Thor is probably the best all purpose green cover)
2. The Hood + Loki + whatever
3. Blade + Falcon + Daken

There's a rough 1 > 3 > 2 > 1 relationship here, though #1 is probably the strongest team overall, but the other two are at least plausible 3* alternatives.

Nellyson

I've actually enjoyed some and , but no green power of course unless the featured has a . If you need a green, I like subbing in Lazy instead of the web head, plus it gives you more coverage.

Patch and are also great, but it can be a pain to try to build up enough . Steve Rogers and Lazy Thor is another favorite of mine, even if they start very very slowly, but damn do they hit hard once they get going! is another new favorite and you can pair him with any green user. Hell, I would even use and if they weren't so low on health! Anyways, I could keep going with good match ups, or ones I think are good which isn't always true! hahaha

GrumpySmurf1002

Phaserhawk wrote:

What if 4hor and X-Force are gone, what would be the best PvP duo, and what would be the strongest Simulator comp?
I was trying to figure this out the other day while I was driving to work. I figure that it would entail at least Loki/Hood for sure in the Simulator, as for top PvP duo?
I think top PvP duo if X-Force and 4hor were gone would probably be 3* Thor/Hood or Loki
the other might be some kind of Patch combo. I could see Patch/Daredevil or Patch/Squirrel Girl as possible quick kill scenarios,
Thoughts?

PvP would immediately gravitate to the fastest team, whoever that is. Patch-Hulk, Thor-Hood are good options.

Simulator I'd personally go Thor-Deadpool-Panther. Rainbow with triple AoE. Can swap in Loki/Hood for Panther and still cover all but blue. Thor-Blade-Daken is also rainbow and should be pretty deadly as well.

Unknown

Having thought about it, I'll say Patch/Loki/C Mags.

hurcules

I'd have two duos: sustained climb duo, and shield hop duo.

Sustained climb would have to include one of the true healing people, or at least accelerated healing. Top choices for me would be:

Patch/Daken (who else?)
Patch/(Doom or Loki)
LT/Blade (works best if featured is Hood or LDaken)

For post-600 team, nothing comes close to the speed of Pulk (Patch/Hulk) bombing after the meta shifted from Hood bombing. Particularly effective when featured has cheap attack tile generation like Psylocke or Docock or even Punisher black.

Phaserhawk

yeah, I think Patch/Hulk bombing probably would be the speed kill duo, although I think LThor/Hood or LThor/C.Mags would probably kill the fastest while also taking much less damage. I just wonder if Sentry would be viable again to bomb, with no X-Force or 4hor he could potentially be scary again. Black Panther/Sentry would be a very scary duo as there's a lot of AoE.

Honestly, and scary to say, I think Squirrel Girl and Daredevil really come into play at this point. Patch/Squirell Girl

Green/Purple Combo is damn near 9K in damage, Daredevil's is much less, but you destroy the tiles.

Deadpool can actually be a factor too. Boosting has him popping guys for a good chunk of health early.

In the end though, it may be Star-Lord/Fury duo. Star-Lord could accelerate Demolition for Fury which is about guarenteed to kill one guy, and Star Lord's purple while probably finish off another, however they will take a lot of health packs.

Unknown

Interesting... I was thinking about this the other day as well. It seems that the game might be a lot more balanced (and fun?) without the 4* line-up.

I think at the 3* level all the covers are pretty well balanced. I think the go-to teams would settle around personal playing style preference rather than "you must use character A, B, and C to win".

Even with the meta being about speed I think there's enough variability that you would see any combination of 166 characters in top spot. Obviously it would be skewed towards whatever is advantageous for shield hopping (highest per-turn damage efficiency) but I think it would be more interesting.

Any combo would probably work. More so because the offensive combo may not be the best on defense and vice-versa.

I remember having a lot more fun back in the day trying to setup the best matches and cascades when I was running my 3* line-up. Nothing better than having 6+ of PunPun's strike tiles out there and then setting up a 2/3/4+ match cascade. Very satisfying.

Now it's just 4Thor Power Surge (2nd highest HP target) + Smite (highest HP target) + Surgical Strike + clean-up (bonus if you can squeeze in 1 or 2 more Smites) --> game over.

EDIT: Or Power Surge, match blue, Power Surge again, etc. etc. etc. --> game over

In fact, maybe we SHOULD just ban 4* altogether.

This coming from a baby whale that has put hard cash into both XF and 4Thor...