Way to make the Gauntlet unplayable

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edited February 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
I am in the transition phase from 2-3 and cannot for the life of me beat these cmags, spidey, falcon combo in the Alpine Tactics seeing how I have to use up my health packs for other nodes. I seem to not get lucky with tile colors and they just wipe the floor with there defensive tiles and then attack tiles right off the bat. I do not have these characters on my team..so what I am I supposed to do? Frustrating!

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  • jackstar0
    jackstar0 Posts: 1,280 Chairperson of the Boards
    Can you post the best members of your roster?

    It would help with giving advice to you on how to handle them.

    Do you have any characters that mess with special tiles and benefit from them? Ms. Marvel or Capt. Marvel perhaps?
  • OBW + Storm (both 2 Star) + whoever works best with them on your roster (Ares would be good, or Thor. Ares deals damage faster. Daredevil instead of OBW can blow up tiles...)

    Use the following Boots: +3 to All AP +3 Blue / Purple AP +100 Match Damage

    Other possible boots instead of match damage: +3 Red / Yellow AP

    Kill Magneto, then Falcon, then Spidey
  • jackstar0 wrote:
    Can you post the best members of your roster?

    It would help with giving advice to you on how to handle them.

    Do you have any characters that mess with special tiles and benefit from them? Ms. Marvel or Capt. Marvel perhaps?


    Here is my top roster:

    http://i.imgur.com/A4bkDyl.png

    I just can't seem to find a winning combo yet for that node...maybe it's just plain bad luck
  • Just use loki. Deny them red and blue, get black and wait for mag/falcons defense tiles. Then take them all. Obw should kill them super fast after that.
  • stowaway
    stowaway Posts: 501 Critical Contributor
    Qkslvr8216 wrote:
    Here is my top roster:

    http://i.imgur.com/A4bkDyl.png

    I just can't seem to find a winning combo yet for that node...maybe it's just plain bad luck

    Loki, Ares, OBW and some AP boosts. No one on that node uses green, so you can use Onslaught with impunity. Good luck!
  • Thanks for the input guys really appreciate it, going to try thor, storm, OBW and see how that goes!
  • I'm having a challenge on the level 266 4hor/Blade/Groot node. I came within inches of winning twice (with Patch/Hulk+Sentry/BP) only to have groot heal back to 16k health and blammo me into tomorrow.
  • dkffiv
    dkffiv Posts: 1,039 Chairperson of the Boards
    camichan wrote:
    I'm having a challenge on the level 266 4hor/Blade/Groot node. I came within inches of winning twice (with Patch/Hulk+Sentry/BP) only to have groot heal back to 16k health and blammo me into tomorrow.

    Blade's level 358 on mine and I brought Xforce Fury Hood without thinking about it too much (no red user nearly lead to Blade going out of control). Surgical favored black from Blade, finished him off, next Surgical ate all his damn strike tiles taking 4hor out, next Surgical gave me infinite yellow for Avenger's Assemble spam. Came very close to going badly, Hood was down to 500 life and Xforce down to about 3k.

    *up to that node on hard without using any boosts. Seeing if I can do a full clear without spending ISO
  • Unknown
    edited February 2015
    As a reminder for everyone else. No nodes are impossible. In fact most of them are trivial if you are using a good combination. You need to have faith. Remember you can't win if you don't believe in the cheese.

    Firstly you need to respec your Ares to 445 and your Thor to 355.

    Storm + Mags can take out teams twice their level. And for that defense tile Node use loki before going off with storm.
    Also get some teamups from your alliance. A berserker rage teamup with loki is almost always game. And you also have a Deadpool purple so the whales are with you.
  • PPPlaya wrote:
    Firstly you need to respec your Ares to 454 and your Thor to 355.

    Ares at 4/4/5 is the consensus, right? You need the shorter countdown on his yellow to make it usable.
  • orbitalint
    orbitalint Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    Ben Grimm wrote:
    PPPlaya wrote:
    Firstly you need to respec your Ares to 454 and your Thor to 355.

    Ares at 4/4/5 is the consensus, right? You need the shorter countdown on his yellow to make it usable.
    Yeah, 4/4/5 is the typical build for max fast damage. Rampage is really a nice to have and the % difference shouldn't kick in except in close calls. Sunder is only like 300 DMG to Ares for significant amounts to them, iirc, if you can get that timer to resolve. Shorter CD is key to that though.
  • dkffiv wrote:
    camichan wrote:
    I'm having a challenge on the level 266 4hor/Blade/Groot node. I came within inches of winning twice (with Patch/Hulk+Sentry/BP) only to have groot heal back to 16k health and blammo me into tomorrow.

    Blade's level 358 on mine and I brought Xforce Fury Hood without thinking about it too much (no red user nearly lead to Blade going out of control). Surgical favored black from Blade, finished him off, next Surgical ate all his damn strike tiles taking 4hor out, next Surgical gave me infinite yellow for Avenger's Assemble spam. Came very close to going badly, Hood was down to 500 life and Xforce down to about 3k.

    *up to that node on hard without using any boosts. Seeing if I can do a full clear without spending ISO

    Just finished the last bracket without boosts. I may have used one somewhere back in the second bracket. The mix of enemies is pretty good compared to before. There's nothing excessively cheap and you don't see guys like Ares/Deadpool/Psylocke/Juggernaut on ultra high levels where they can do insane damage with a 2 match move. The most annoying stuff is probably the guys who do match damage on ability damage e.g. OBW/Daken/Blade but it's still manageable. The massive nerf to high level enemy match damage helped a lot too.

    For what it's worth, it seems like 4* now get the tiebreaker over other *s if they're the same level for the highest match at high levels (270+).
  • Pylgrim
    Pylgrim Posts: 2,332 Chairperson of the Boards
    stowaway wrote:
    Qkslvr8216 wrote:
    Here is my top roster:

    http://i.imgur.com/A4bkDyl.png

    I just can't seem to find a winning combo yet for that node...maybe it's just plain bad luck

    Loki, Ares, OBW and some AP boosts. No one on that node uses green, so you can use Onslaught with impunity. Good luck!

    This. That team was created to spam annoying protect tiles. Loki will laugh at them while OBW helps you get black quicker and Ares just finishes.
  • You don't need anything special to deal with a protect tile spammer. Even Luke Cage that auto creates a 600 protect tile every turn at 395 wasn't particularly hard to beat. You still play the game like you normally would but just make sure you either have some moves that can break up the board and then unload once the protect tiles are gone, or have moves that hit hard enough that can punch through the protect tiles. Don't get distracted on the fact that you're only doing 1 damage.
  • grunth13
    grunth13 Posts: 608 Critical Contributor
    That's total ****. I lost 3 straight times on the same node and the levels went up after each loss.
  • Ben Grimm wrote:
    PPPlaya wrote:
    Firstly you need to respec your Ares to 454 and your Thor to 355.

    Ares at 4/4/5 is the consensus, right? You need the shorter countdown on his yellow to make it usable.
    Oops, you are right. You want 5 yellow and 4 in the other 2. Somehow I thought yellow was his second. I'll correct it immediately.
  • Phantron wrote:
    Just finished the last bracket without boosts.

    What team did you (and anyone else who wants to comment) use for the last node: vl 340ish Fury, Thor, Xforce? I may call the whales, but if I can squeak by with a normal 3* team, I'd like to give it a try.
  • camichan wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    Just finished the last bracket without boosts.

    What team did you (and anyone else who wants to comment) use for the last node: vl 340ish Fury, Thor, Xforce? I may call the whales, but if I can squeak by with a normal 3* team, I'd like to give it a try.

    Punisher/Loki/Captain America. They never got any moves off though I had a fairly favorable sequence of Mischiefs (was always able to find a match 4 for a color they currently have 0 in and trade for AP favorably). Initially focus on green/purple for Judgment + Illusion and hopefully the damage from Judgment is enough to do meaningful damage to X Force. After enough AP is collected Captain America does most of the work though I usually use Retribution if it'll finish someone off. Keep in mind that their skills give you a lot of breaks like Power Surge is often used before Demolition (9 vs 10 AP) and Recovery is likely used before Striking Distance (which does hurt because unlike players they have 5 in everything) or Avenger's Assemble (may hit for a ton of damage in the wrong circumstances). The only threatening moves are X Force, Surgical Strike, and Demolition. You can tank a Smite if needed, and same with Escape Plan (hits hard, but not quite enough to kill someone).
  • dkffiv
    dkffiv Posts: 1,039 Chairperson of the Boards
    camichan wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    Just finished the last bracket without boosts.

    What team did you (and anyone else who wants to comment) use for the last node: vl 340ish Fury, Thor, Xforce? I may call the whales, but if I can squeak by with a normal 3* team, I'd like to give it a try.

    Cleared it with Punisher IM40 OBW. If yellow is favorable go for that for IM40 (mine has 4 covers yellow) which will give enough AP to spam 3-cover purple OBW. Keep their AP down and Judgment + Espionage will chew things up. OBW blue to keep people topped off.

    The one that gave me the most trouble was 395 OBW/Cage/Hulk. OBW kept spamming blue or purple and Cage would eventually get enough AP to 1 shot someone. Took 3 or 4 tries to do it, managed a full gauntlet clear with 0 AP boosts.