starlord as an essential is just wrong!!

grunth13

Does any one else feel that making a 4* cover that they just put out in a very limited fashion (top 50 placement) is just plain Crapo!!!

dider152

Yes. apparently, Demiurge only cares about the top 50/anyone lucky enough to get into a top 50 alliance.

chaos01

I am sure the devs compensated for this by:

1. Offering daredevil as the top reward
2. Putting the R&G blue so ridiculously low

Plus he is 2/3 with R&G the other. After the last grind-fest you need to reward those that grinded better than you.

Unknown

It happened with Nick Fury, TGT, Elektra, and now Star Lord. Who didn't see this coming, really? Instead of saying Star Lord Essential is just wrong, what you should be saying is "Why aren't 4* characters rewarded to top 100 players?"

Plus it's Dare Devil rewards, coming off a max grind fest, you might be able to get 1 cover without even doing the essential nodes the competition will be so light.

GothicKratos

As far as I remember, at least since 4* Thor's induction, they have only had the 4* be the "essential" in two of the three nodes also - it's not perfect, but you're not completely screwed if you don't get Starlord.

dkffiv

If you didn't place top 50 last event you're expected to buy packs until you can do essentials if you want a top 5 finish. $$$

Unknown

The way PVE is structured, as long as you are willing to devote the time, you can place well, regardless of roster. I had rosters that placed around me that were firmly in two-star land and got Starlord covers. By making Starlord essential it rewards those of us that busted our humps for the last week to get that character. This is what they've done every time they release new characters, whether 4's or 3's and this may make me sound like bit of a jerk, but for those that don't like, try harder next time. If you don't want to, then don't vetch about it after the fact.

Mikaveus

I worked my tail off and landed in the Top 20 securing Star-Lord. I feel bad for those who put in the effort and fell short. Top 50 is always a bloodbath - and Mohawk Storm is the consolation prize? That's just wrong.

Things will be better when 8-hour refreshes return. Far easier to play the game 3 times per day compared to 8!

DD-The-Mighty

Ghost79 wrote:

The way PVE is structured, as long as you are willing to devote the time, you can place well, regardless of roster. I had rosters that placed around me that were firmly in two-star land and got Starlord covers. By making Starlord essential it rewards those of us that busted our humps for the last week to get that character. This is what they've done every time they release new characters, whether 4's or 3's and this may make me sound like bit of a jerk, but for those that don't like, try harder next time. If you don't want to, then don't vetch about it after the fact.

Ooook there ITG. Noones attacking all your "hard work" in that match 3 game.

grunth13 wrote:

Does any one else feel that making a 4* cover that they just put out in a very limited fashion (top 50 placement) is just plain Crapo!!!

I feel where you're coming from OP. but grinders are gonna grind and whales are gonna whale, And Demi will continue to pander to them. Once you come to terms with it and stop caring like a lot of us, you will see the silliness of these grind off's, and achieve tranquility.

Quebbster

At least it's only Daredevil on the line. It was much worse when you needed 4* Thor to unlock the essentials in order to win the brand-new Gamora.

SnowcaTT

Lerysh wrote:

It happened with Nick Fury, TGT, Elektra, and now Star Lord. Who didn't see this coming, really? Instead of saying Star Lord Essential is just wrong, what you should be saying is "Why aren't 4* characters rewarded to top 100 players?"

Plus it's Dare Devil rewards, coming off a max grind fest, you might be able to get 1 cover without even doing the essential nodes the competition will be so light.

This. PVE essentials are only after they are introduced, and often they have one PVP run as well. If they are going to be used, they should be given out for rewards to more than top 1% (or less) as well.

Unknown

I can understand how you might be a bit irked by this, I mean, I didn't make top 50 last event either. But consider what you're potentially missing out on, Daredevil, it's not all that big of a deal.

grunth13

Well I'm in my 3* transition, so all covers are nice since the only 3* that I game max covered is hulk and gsbw, both not the greatest although they work together. Do I'm not going to knock the dd covers, but I'm sorry if I didn't grind like crazy...I had patients that were delivering babies.

Unknown

grunth13 wrote:

Well I'm in my 3* transition, so all covers are nice since the only 3* that I game max covered is hulk and gsbw, both not the greatest although they work together. Do I'm not going to knock the dd covers, but I'm sorry if I didn't grind like crazy...I had patients that were delivering babies.

As a parent, I thank you for doing your job instead of playing MPQ.

rednailz

dider152 wrote:

Yes. apparently, Demiurge only cares about the top 50/anyone lucky enough to get into a top 50 alliance.

I'ts not luck. It's work.

rednailz

grunth13 wrote:

Does any one else feel that making a 4* cover that they just put out in a very limited fashion (top 50 placement) is just plain Crapo!!!

There won't be a lot of scramble for DD covers, and there will be a lot of burn out from grinding for SL, and SL isn't needed for every essential.

I always thought it was kinda cool that essentials exist, even if I didn't have the charecter required. It's like a cool secret level thing to me. I"ve also had some great placements without being able to play the essential, so it's easily doable, you just have to grind the other nodes harder.

grunth13

When I first started playing this game, I didn't have many covers but placed well when I was able to grind. But you can't grind an 8 hour refresh because you get very few points which makes every node important. Also not knocking the 8 hour refresh (makes having a practice and playing both easier), but makes it much harder to gain points when 20 to 30% of all the points are stuck in essential nodes that most can't play. I wouldn't have a problem with this except they made the character a top 50 placement in both single and alliance.

Phaserhawk

grunth13 wrote:

When I first started playing this game, I didn't have many covers but placed well when I was able to grind. But you can't grind an 8 hour refresh because you get very few points which makes every node important. Also not knocking the 8 hour refresh (makes having a practice and playing both easier), but makes it much harder to gain points when 20 to 30% of all the points are stuck in essential nodes that most can't play. I wouldn't have a problem with this except they made the character a top 50 placement in both single and alliance.

There arent' as many points in those nodes as you think, however I get the frustration, I have always said if you are going to have character specific nodes, always have a loaner, because...the benefit I have of having say 1 or 2 Starlord covers is mine will be much better than the loaner, thus making it easier for me to win the node.

grunth13

Phaserhawk, I think you have hit it on the head. I think a loaner with the worst power would be fine so that I can at least attempt the node with boost and luck. right now that is 800 points in those 2 nodes that I can not even try.

The Gunslinger

grunth13 wrote:

Phaserhawk, I think you have hit it on the head. I think a loaner with the worst power would be fine so that I can at least attempt the node with boost and luck. right now that is 800 points in those 2 nodes that I can not even try.

I understand your frustration. I always hate being froze out of a node. Just seeing it sit there, unplayed, gaining points, mocking me. This happened a lot to me early on, much less now (I'm around 170 days played). It happened to me for Lady Thor and Elektra. However, I put in the time last PVE to get a Star-Lord cover and I think it makes sense that I should have a slight advantage for my efforts. Giving out a loaner character would make me feel like I wasted my time for the last PVE. And I get that not having an essential makes it difficult to get top 50, and more than likely locks you out of a top 10. But you aren't getting top 10 unless you hit pretty much every refresh anyway, and that's reserved for the crazies. Top 100 or 150 is doable without the essential; I know because I've done it a few times.

This opinion is coming from someone who usually places well enough to get the essential character for the next PVE, so take it with a grain of salt.

JVReal

For me, I like essentials, but I don't think essentials should require 4* characters, nor should they require vaulted characters. 4* characters are ultra-rare, so many, many, many people will not have them. 3* essentials, ok. People have had a chance to earn them over time. A 4* character if made an essential should be 1 essential node max. To give a slight advantage.

For the people who say you can grind to make up for those missing essentials... not anymore with 8 hour refreshes. Grinding used to be able to make up for missing essential characters (smaller roster), but not anymore. Unless a bunch of people miss an 8 hour refresh or two, you won't have an easy time making up those points. This is my theory, we'll see how it pans out, will be interesting to know how many people in top rewards had the essential and how many didn't.

I barely squeezed into top 50... ranked 47 and only beat out 51 by less than 200 points... 1 node could shift that placement.