Is it impossible to catch up?

Unknown

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)

I have a maxed two star roster of the ones I want, and am developing my three and four star roster. It takes ages to get three star covers, and when a reward offers one (like Blade in the current match), it is set at 900. I can't get past 500-600.

I figure I'll keep going and eventually my roster will be able to get to 900. Then I think, won't everyone already in front of me be far, far better by then, kicking my butt before I get there?

As I only started this game some months ago, so many people seem so far ahead, maxed four star characters etc, and I only have maybe 2 or 3 covers on a four star at best. With the upcoming move to more four star, will it realistically be possible to ever make the grade?

Thoughts are appreciated...

Unknown

With so many characters out now, it is indeed harder to collect enough for a single 3-4* character to get them to fighting strength. Once you do get a good 3* team up to 3* strength it should become easier to earn more 3*s, but there is no easy path to get over that hump. For everyone there is that wall where progression slows to a halt, if you expect to be a 4* player in just a couple months you are going to be dissapointed. So if you have the patience then yes you can keep progressing but I fear it is harder to make that transition now that it may have been in the beginning.

MarvelMan

As Crypto says, the 2* -> 3* is probably the hardest transition due to the volume of 3*s so getting 13 covers, let alone the ones you want, for any 3* is very hard. Progression at any point is difficult as the covers needed to get ahead are just a bit out of reach. This is intended as it encourages spending.

There are strategies for the F2P to get past this, but it takes a lot of effort and focusing of resources. Do you prefer PVP or PVE?

Unknown

If you don't buy tons of covers once you get the first ones, I'd say, you can't catch up. Then you have the problem of Iso...

esoxnepa

Twombley wrote:

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)

As I only started this game some months ago, so many people seem so far ahead, maxed four star characters etc, and I only have maybe 2 or 3 covers on a four star at best. With the upcoming move to more four star, will it realistically be possible to ever make the grade?

Thoughts are appreciated...

This game has a long slow power curve. Try to enjoy the game for the power level you are at.

Rumors are there is a new game mode coming that will help ease the 2-3* transition. Right now, the transition phases need to be fixed. They seem designed around a much smaller set of 3* characters than we have now. So where early adopters to the game could make the transition in 3-4 months, it now takes much longer.

The game seems to gate your speed of advancement, and makes it appear as spending money will let you jump over the gate to the next level. Just keep in mind, that there is another wall waiting for you to jump. Overcoming these barriers is part of what makes the game fun, but they are also what makes people throw their phones.

Unknown

esoxnepa wrote:

but they are also what makes people throw their phones.

You don't say.

GrumpySmurf1002

Twombley wrote:

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)
I figure I'll keep going and eventually my roster will be able to get to 900. Then I think, won't everyone already in front of me be far, far better by then, kicking my butt before I get there?

As of now the gap between a player that can get to 900 and one that can get to 1300 is almost strictly a function of HP spend, specifically on shields. There's a small window, somewhere around 800 or so, where roster strength plays a role in when you have to apply your first shield, but it's a pretty negligible effect, and can be beaten by luck as much as anything.

So it's really depends on what you mean by 'catch up.' No, you're likely not going to catch one of the veterans in terms of breadth of roster unless you put in more time than they do, which in some cases is pretty much impossible. However, there's a plateau which once you cross it, you're at least playing in the same arena again.

san

The short answer is, no, it's not impossible. It is difficult, however.

I am on day 180+ (not really sure anymore, but I got my 3 x-force covers), and I am finally starting to do some real damage in PvP. This is after a couple of seasons simply collecting 3* covers, and being in a casual top 100 alliance (7 or 8/10 events we are top 100). This is very helpful for HP and 3* tokens.

The trick is to keep playing. Slow and steady wins this race. I know there's a whole lot more 3*s now, but it's not completely impossible. Focus on just collecting HP for roster slots and increasing this. The covers will come eventually.

Best of luck

Unknown

I have multiple maxed 3*s, and reaching 900 in this specific tourney would probably require an unhealthy amount of HP for shielding and boosts, so I don't think I'm going to push very hard....

dkffiv

To compete in PvP/PvE - no, its I'd dare say relatively easy to catch up (especially if you're willing to buy a few covers). I've had a bunch of alliancemates in your position and a season or two later they're able to hit 800+ (and even 1k+). A lot of that hinges on advice from veteran players but once you understand how the game works and have a top 100 alliance helping you get your initial covers its not so bad.

To level/max all characters, yes. I'm at day 457 and have just under half my roster maxed, but the amount of ISO I need to finish the rest just keeps going up and up. Granted most of the remaining suck, but from a perfectionist point of view it would not be possible to catch up unless you were going to drop thousands of dollars into this game.

Unknown

It depends on what catch up you are talking about

to get 2 to 3 166 ? yes

to get full roster 166 and compare with those 4* wall? yes but you need cash ( credit card ) i welcome

SnowcaTT

Just passed day 300, I have many characters with 13 covers - I've been evenly leveling (to compete in both PVE and PVP) and have no 166's - but recently moved X-force to 200.

One reason I haven't moved many up is the ones that I have - you might as well wait for the "right" characters to use the incredibly rare ISO needed to move them up. Since half of the characters are just begging for everyone to attack you if you use them (to weak), you'll likely end up with a bundle that aren't really worth maxing out. You'll also end up with things like 5 of the "bad" cover and 3 or less of the "good" one.

I've only rarely passed 700, and only passed 800 couple of times seasons back when MMR was different. I've been playing the long game that D3 has said they intend - trying to pick up two covers with T100 every PVP and T150 every PVE. I haven't been trying to get the 900 cover - instead aim for T25 which can be done with a few good 166's on a semi-regular basis.

One problem is they'll rotate characters out for three to four months at a time, giving you little chance to get them. For instance, I never drew a 3* Thor yellow - I never saw a yellow event, now he's rotated out, I can't T25 (or 5, wherever it is) to get the yellow, and now my roster is high enough level and PVE has changed enough that scaling is making his current PVE yellow cover likely out of reach. So there will be times you won't get a single cover, you can't get more even if you want to pay for them.

Another problem is they'll skip certain covers over and over. I know some on the forums have zero blue hood after 400 days - they keep running hood events without giving hood blue: almost as if they are saying you -must- pay to get that valuable cover....

The largest problem is by the time you get to several 166's, more folks will have gotten their 270's going - the game is transitioning to 4*. This is where many don't think you can catch up - seems you need good 4*'s to regularly get the 4*'s: this tier push often will keep the 3*'s away from the 900 point thresh-hold.

GuntherBlobel

Don't even think of it as catching up. Play to have fun. It's as simple as that. On this forum, I've seen people at the ultra-high end drive themselves crazy trying to "keep up" with latest 4* character.

There is plenty of player turn over and I suspect that whales bore easily. So, if you still enjoy the game 6 months from now, you may find that you still have plenty of content left to unlock. At the same time, the current group of dominant players will have moved on leaving more room for you near the top.

Don't try to outpace the whales. There is no end-game. This can be a good thing.

Eddiemon

Absolutely not.

Focus on the 3* characters that you want and use your resources for only them. So no buying extra slots with HP for a character that isn't one of your chosen few. Spend HP on buying extra covers for one of your transition 3*s.

When one of your chosen characters is a reward, then use your resources to push for a higher score. Gamble by joining a bracket towards the end so that the score to get top 25 might be achievable. Burn all your boosts on that event. Then recharge them in the next events.

Focus on older characters (Patch, Punisher, Lazy Cap) over characters like Blade or Mystique because most of the veterans will have them maxed and so there won't be as many in the late groups trying to smash and grab covers.

Of course the easy way to catch up is to actually spend some money on the game. I'm not sure why paying for a service offends some people just because they could have it for free. There isn't a moral highground in consuming someone else's output for free.

Dauthi

Twombley wrote:

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)

I have a maxed two star roster of the ones I want, and am developing my three and four star roster. It takes ages to get three star covers, and when a reward offers one (like Blade in the current match), it is set at 900. I can't get past 500-600.

I figure I'll keep going and eventually my roster will be able to get to 900. Then I think, won't everyone already in front of me be far, far better by then, kicking my butt before I get there?

As I only started this game some months ago, so many people seem so far ahead, maxed four star characters etc, and I only have maybe 2 or 3 covers on a four star at best. With the upcoming move to more four star, will it realistically be possible to ever make the grade?

Thoughts are appreciated...

While I mostly played for fun, I thought the same thing early on about all the hardcore players ahead of me a year ago. Then, one of the top players quit, then another, then another until I was sitting at a spot where I felt accomplished. Just play and stay dedicated and you will catch up, it's just that those you catch up to will be the ones left still playing.

There will always be a hardcore top that are whales and players that have been around since the start ahead of you, but those will be very very few.

iLL619

I'm on day 76 in a pretty good alliance, with **** rewards on tokens for covers you don't need it gets frustrating. I'm on 2* to 3* transition Blade seems like my best cover, I have XforceW and few other good 3* and 4* but don't have covers to upgrade fully

My alliance does pretty well but seems we get tokens again that give u useless covers you don't need. So it gets frustrating. I don't see competition getting better for new players. You need certain score for PvP to get in good alliance. PvP I get around 300-400 before getting stompted by crazy high lvl vets

I love this game and have spent money to catch up and get certain covers since the drop rate to get covers you need is f'n ridiculous.. Sad D3 is so greedy and forces new players to decide to spend money or grind endlessly. I work have a FAM.. I play everyday but I wish with this new 3* game mode it becomes easier to lvl up 3* covers.. 2* should not be given so easily since many of us have maxed out our 2* rosters

Unknown

Twombley wrote:

Thoughts are appreciated...

I think - only if you are hardcore pve grinder, in pve you can win more than 1 cover (not counting alliances), since you can't be high in pvp - it's the only way for you. You need HP for roster slots, so you need to place high in subs and overall. If you can't do it, just play casually. If you want to do it anyway, remember to not level up anyone above 100 to stay competetive and I suggest to do anything to get covers for Cap A - he is be(a)st for pve.

Unknown

Twombley wrote:

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)

I have a maxed two star roster of the ones I want, and am developing my three and four star roster. It takes ages to get three star covers, and when a reward offers one (like Blade in the current match), it is set at 900. I can't get past 500-600.

I figure I'll keep going and eventually my roster will be able to get to 900. Then I think, won't everyone already in front of me be far, far better by then, kicking my butt before I get there?

As I only started this game some months ago, so many people seem so far ahead, maxed four star characters etc, and I only have maybe 2 or 3 covers on a four star at best. With the upcoming move to more four star, will it realistically be possible to ever make the grade?

Thoughts are appreciated...

My roster at 170 days played is 4 166s, 16 3*s fully covered between level 100 and 144, 8 lvl94 2*s, a 335 xforce, 413 goddess, and bunch of 3*s fully covered at lvl40. I do play every day though.
I should have my 270s in another month or so.

Unknown

ark123 wrote:

Twombley wrote:

(obviously few things about games are impossible, but still..)

I have a maxed two star roster of the ones I want, and am developing my three and four star roster. It takes ages to get three star covers, and when a reward offers one (like Blade in the current match), it is set at 900. I can't get past 500-600.

I figure I'll keep going and eventually my roster will be able to get to 900. Then I think, won't everyone already in front of me be far, far better by then, kicking my butt before I get there?

As I only started this game some months ago, so many people seem so far ahead, maxed four star characters etc, and I only have maybe 2 or 3 covers on a four star at best. With the upcoming move to more four star, will it realistically be possible to ever make the grade?

Thoughts are appreciated...

My roster at 170 days played is 4 166s, 16 3*s fully covered between level 100 and 144, 8 lvl94 2*s, a 335 xforce, 413 goddess, and bunch of 3*s fully covered at lvl40. I do play every day though.
I should have my 270s in another month or so.

how much you spend in game? it is not about played but spending...

Unknown

arktos1971 wrote:

If you don't buy tons of covers once you get the first ones, I'd say, you can't catch up. Then you have the problem of Iso...

This. Unless you are willing to pump $100's into this game, you will not make any substantial progress. The 2-3 trans is simply too broken.

iLL619

Switchman wrote:

arktos1971 wrote:

If you don't buy tons of covers once you get the first ones, I'd say, you can't catch up. Then you have the problem of Iso...

This. Unless you are willing to pump $100's into this game, you will not make any substantial progress. The 2-3 trans is simply too broken.

This is what sucks. If you're not in a good alliance you won't get covers.. Alliances want high totals for you to join.. If you don't have good roster you can't make their alliance quota.. Without good pulls from tokens you won't get 3* 4* covers.. Just the same 2* cover rewards. D3 is greedy and competition will never be close.. Same old top alliances will get better while other players struggle.. It ain't right