An idea for sorta new characters.

Hulk11
Hulk11 Posts: 435
edited January 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
Can we get some variations of characters already in the game? Such as yelena, so many people think she's worthless, while maybe as a 1 star but start working in 2 star and 3 star covers for her. This philosophy goes for many of the characters and it would help round out the current available characters and work in other variations. I'm not a huge fan of the copy and paste of the variations, it's fine if they look different.

Comments

  • rednailz
    rednailz Posts: 559
    Not every charecter in the marvel universe is 3 * caliber. Yel certainly isn't. It's a rich and diverse enough pool they don't need to lame it up by slapping up piles of carbon copies at different star levels. Why not a 4 * bag man then?
  • tanis3303
    tanis3303 Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
    I think what needs to happen more then adding even more new characters, is to give everyone a break from having to add 750HP roster slots for a solid 3-4 months for worthless new characters and balance the 60 characters we already have.

    Let me repeat that number. 60 characters. There are 60 characters in this game, but exactly 4 of them matter in the slightest (for PvP anyway) - 4-Thor, Xforce, Hood and Daken. Arguments can be made for Fury, CMags, Lazy Thor, Lazy Cap and Blade, and maybe even Hulk, Patch, Mystique and a few other mid-tier 3*s, but honestly, in a game that features 60 characters, to have arguably less then 10% of them actually be considered "good" is absurd. Stop flooding the game with more stinkers and level out the playing field with what you already have.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    rednailz wrote:
    Not every charecter in the marvel universe is 3 * caliber. Yel certainly isn't. It's a rich and diverse enough pool they don't need to lame it up by slapping up piles of carbon copies at different star levels. Why not a 4 * bag man then?

    This may be true, but since many characters haven't been deemed worthy for their star rating, it's just a star. Is there really a difference in a Thor 2 to a thor 3 and so on? Is an iron man one star really different from an iron man being 3 stars? As far as spiderman, that's just his variations, they chose to make that one a little dumber since he's a 2 star, they can easily add a dumber 1 star version if you like. Personally I'd take an improved 4 star version. He also doesn't need to be a copy, as I explained, better and different art with new powers. Not bad compared to new characters that will never be seen again.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    tanis3303 wrote:
    I think what needs to happen more then adding even more new characters, is to give everyone a break from having to add 750HP roster slots for a solid 3-4 months for worthless new characters and balance the 60 characters we already have.

    Let me repeat that number. 60 characters. There are 60 characters in this game, but exactly 4 of them matter in the slightest (for PvP anyway) - 4-Thor, Xforce, Hood and Daken. Arguments can be made for Fury, CMags, Lazy Thor, Lazy Cap and Blade, and maybe even Hulk, Patch, Mystique and a few other mid-tier 3*s, but honestly, in a game that features 60 characters, to have arguably less then 10% of them actually be considered "good" is absurd. Stop flooding the game with more stinkers and level out the playing field with what you already have.

    Just to clarify, the only characters that matter in end game pvp are xf, goddess, hood, and loki (daken sucks too much on offense and defense damage/support wise to be worth it after sustained pushing, which you can do with anyone). I dont think any other character would be used over those 4. I dont think they can balance the game without releasing more 4*s: xf and ladythor are the real problem, and theyre not going to nerf them.
  • Colognoisseur
    Colognoisseur Posts: 807 Critical Contributor
    tanis3303 wrote:
    I think what needs to happen more then adding even more new characters, is to give everyone a break from having to add 750HP roster slots for a solid 3-4 months for worthless new characters and balance the 60 characters we already have.

    Let me repeat that number. 60 characters. There are 60 characters in this game, but exactly 4 of them matter in the slightest (for PvP anyway) - 4-Thor, Xforce, Hood and Daken. Arguments can be made for Fury, CMags, Lazy Thor, Lazy Cap and Blade, and maybe even Hulk, Patch, Mystique and a few other mid-tier 3*s, but honestly, in a game that features 60 characters, to have arguably less then 10% of them actually be considered "good" is absurd. Stop flooding the game with more stinkers and level out the playing field with what you already have.


    The entire game is not just PvP. In PvE (that allows me to use my whole roster)I regularly use way above 20 of my characters. This way I can do my clears on one set of health packs.
    I would say your list for PvP is actually too generous. There are two characters that matter if you want to place. First X-Force and second 4hor. Your prospects are severely limited if you don't have one or both. Now this is no different than it was two months ago when you had to have Sentry and Hood. And on and on and on. MPQ has had a power couple that dominates PvP for as long as I have been playing. That will not change. The aspect of new characters coming out is does the next release shake up the current world order. Squirrel Girl seems like she will definitely find a place on my PvE rotation and unless her abilities get crazy at lvl 5 not in PvP.
  • rednailz
    rednailz Posts: 559
    Hulk11 wrote:
    rednailz wrote:
    Not every charecter in the marvel universe is 3 * caliber. Yel certainly isn't. It's a rich and diverse enough pool they don't need to lame it up by slapping up piles of carbon copies at different star levels. Why not a 4 * bag man then?

    This may be true, but since many characters haven't been deemed worthy for their star rating, it's just a star. Is there really a difference in a Thor 2 to a thor 3 and so on? Is an iron man one star really different from an iron man being 3 stars? As far as spiderman, that's just his variations, they chose to make that one a little dumber since he's a 2 star, they can easily add a dumber 1 star version if you like. Personally I'd take an improved 4 star version. He also doesn't need to be a copy, as I explained, better and different art with new powers. Not bad compared to new characters that will never be seen again.

    I think you have a point about the star rating, and people like me need to let go of the stars having any basis in the comic books and any reference to how powerful they are. Elektra is a good example of this.

    For iron man the idea is the IM40 suit is stronger. For spidey you could do a 4 *, technically, sorta. You could do a cosmic spidey or a black suit spidey as a 4 *.

    My other point I will stick to though. I'd rather play with a bunch of different x-men then 4 versions of the same spiderman wearing different suits. I personally dont' like the 3* daken 2* daken 2* cap 3* cap carbon copy style. In a game already arguably too saturated with covers to collect I'd like to cap the redundancy. (does that count as a pun? I think so)