The new wall in PVP

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edited December 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
Any advice on how to break the new 270 wall in pvp? I finally made a decent 3* roster only to be greeted with the new 270 wall. Which i dont believe I will ever obtain myself, getting to 1300 pts is almost impossible now that I'm fighting teams over 100 lvls higher than I. 100 lvls. Ive been playing video games for most of my life, and I dont think Ive ever played a game that allows you to face opponent's 100 lvls higher.

Getting 1st is also impossible for me due to the massive amounts of people breaking 2k pts when im only scoring 1000 which may keep me in top 25. Im at my wits end, i dont know how to continue. Please help!!

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  • IlDuderino
    IlDuderino Posts: 427 Mover and Shaker
    edited December 2014
    Could you say who your 3*s are? Some 3*s are capable of hopping to 1300 if you carefully pick targets. If you are talking Doc Ock and She Hulk then that is a problem!

    Also look out for when one of your max 3*s is featured in PvP as then you have one character in the mid 200s who can carry you. I did great in a lightening round yesterday when 3* Cap was featured (though the token pulls still sucked!)

    EDIT Also using the 100 ISO boosts can speed up key fights and if you have maxed Deadpool you can use boosts to start with 6 red which takes a nasty % of HP off someone like XForce on turn one
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    Fight them?

    Seriously, it's about that simple. It obviously helps to have XForce to counter XForce, but if you have a good 3* team composition, you don't need him to beat XForce/4Thor. It's scary in number only.
  • Breakking
    Breakking Posts: 56 Match Maker
    Lazy Cap, Lazy Thor & Deadpool can handle any 4 star team out there
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Well I have Thor, Cap, Panther, Punisher, Daken, and Patch maxed out. I lack Hood, i know he is key.
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rio_D wrote:
    Well I have Thor, Cap, Panther, Punisher, Daken, and Patch maxed out. I lack Hood, i know he is key.

    Pretty much any combination of that group can take down the 4* teams, if you're skilled at using them efficiently. Key is killing XForce as quickly as possible. 4Thor is deadly with a precise series of moves, but the AI plays her with the precision of using a piano to pick a lock.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Well clearly I lack the skill. icon_e_biggrin.gif Its just sooooo many resources to kill them and ONE hit with any of X Forces moves will destroy you. At that point its a waste of 100hp for the boost and another 75 for the new shield....
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I am using LTHhor and Black Panther to get to 1300.. I use boosts and a lotttt of hp lol and am able to take out 270 xforce .. I rarely get any defensive wins when I cross 800 points may be around 3 or 4 max per pvp .. but I am slowly building my 4 star roster .. have 8 fury and 6 4thor covers right now .. I want to collect aa many as possible before the new cooldowns come into effect ..
  • GuntherBlobel
    GuntherBlobel Posts: 987 Critical Contributor
    Rio_D wrote:
    Well clearly I lack the skill. icon_e_biggrin.gif Its just sooooo many resources to kill them and ONE hit with any of X Forces moves will destroy you. At that point its a waste of 100hp for the boost and another 75 for the new shield....
    I'm in the same boat, but it really doesn't bother me. Are you getting T25? Those are pretty good rewards for a single shield or less.

    I did a decent job shield hopping to T5 and 1100 pts a tournament ago, but I still had to consider whether it was worth the HP. Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that I could use all 4 covers, it would not have been. Shield hopping is expensive.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Currently I am in 40th place after spending 400hp. I have about 850pts and i am in 40th. I am happy with top 25, always have been. But now it seems that i need a 4* team for that. The only 3* i see now is Hood.
  • GuntherBlobel
    GuntherBlobel Posts: 987 Critical Contributor
    Rio_D wrote:
    Currently I am in 40th place after spending 400hp. I have about 850pts and i am in 40th. I am happy with top 25, always have been. But now it seems that i need a 4* team for that. The only 3* i see now is Hood.
    Oh, ok. Yeah, that's rough. In the Weapon Tex-Mex PvP 850 pts got me 4th place. I did buy a 300 pt sheild because I couldn't play the end day. I think I was in time slice #1, but in any case, I always avoid the "standard" #4 slice.

    I think Demiurge needs to be careful here, because I'm fine with the biggest whales getting T5, but the whales can't have all the rewards. No one new will want to pick up the game.
  • acescracked
    acescracked Posts: 1,197 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rio_D wrote:
    Currently I am in 40th place after spending 400hp. I have about 850pts and i am in 40th. I am happy with top 25, always have been. But now it seems that i need a 4* team for that. The only 3* i see now is Hood.

    For top placements be careful of which time slice you join. Slice 1-3 generally require less points to place top 10 than slices 4 & 5. You can also try to join less busy brackets within time slices.

    I personally hate how time slices have changed PvP. However, slices have made it easier to place higher in a bracket.
  • Phaserhawk
    Phaserhawk Posts: 2,676 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have a maxed X-Force and when 4hor was the featured PvP I was having a big problem as I was running into max X-Force/Fury/and super charge 4hor. My secret weapon was Punisher, remember you only have to do 60% of their damage in life total to down them and to do about 6k worth of dmg on X-Force or close to 10K on 4hor is much easier to deal with, essential you turn X-Force into a 6800 character and 4hor into a 10200 character and they are easily to deal with.
  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,685 Chairperson of the Boards
    acescracked wrote:
    Rio_D wrote:
    Currently I am in 40th place after spending 400hp. I have about 850pts and i am in 40th. I am happy with top 25, always have been. But now it seems that i need a 4* team for that. The only 3* i see now is Hood.

    For top placements be careful of which time slice you join. Slice 1-3 generally require less points to place top 10 than slices 4 & 5. You can also try to join less busy brackets within time slices.

    I personally hate how time slices have changed PvP. However, slices have made it easier to place higher in a bracket.

    This. This has been my experience. I can generally breach 700 if I go with slice 1, 2, or 3. If I go for slice 4.. well... today I had trouble getting past 600, I'm currently at 613 and decided it wasn't worth the slog to get to T25, I'll be happy with T100.

    You definitely hit harder opponents earlier in the later slices as well.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    IlDuderino wrote:
    Could you say who your 3*s are? Some 3*s are capable of hopping to 1300 if you carefully pick targets.

    How do you think anyone with 3* characters is going to get anywhere near 1300 with the new shielding system? You already need to have maxed 4* characters in order to get new 4* covers. Also, I don't know how you carefully pick targets, but when I hit 1000-1100 points, I spend 5000 ISO skipping 2-3 point opponents just trying to find anyone worth fighting at all. It's a total waste.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    kalyan0206 wrote:
    I am using LTHhor and Black Panther to get to 1300.. I use boosts and a lotttt of hp lol and am able to take out 270 xforce .. I rarely get any defensive wins when I cross 800 points may be around 3 or 4 max per pvp .. but I am slowly building my 4 star roster .. have 8 fury and 6 4thor covers right now .. I want to collect aa many as possible before the new cooldowns come into effect ..
    I use a maxed x-force/almost maxed-FT, and average under 2 wins a pvp. Wins don't mean much
  • OnesOwnGrief
    OnesOwnGrief Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards
    Honestly speaking, the 270 wall has been there since X-Force was updated. Made worse when Devil Dino launched, and now we have 4* Thor to throw in there. This is nothing new and no different from the 249/166/166 wall. Unless you're dealing with Hood and maybe Loki in one of those slots, you shouldn't have a problem if you know what you're doing.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I don't really see what's the problem with Thor because if you're at a point where you're still having problem against her 16K HPs then your score probably isn't going to be super high so you don't have to worry as much about taking some extra time because your score is considered low relative to the guys you're fighting. As long as you do take some time to think about the match it's very hard for Thor to get the exact combination of AP she needs to be dangerous so that fight ends up being easier than X Force/The Hood. It only matters for people who are also similarly highly rated where they don't have time to think due to being attractive targets themselves and must end the fight as soon as possible.

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