Shield hop

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edited December 2014 in MPQ Tips and Guides
Now can we still shield hop to gain more point in pvp? Can I still reach 1300 point in pvp?
Is the cooling off timer can started?

What is the best point I have then start to hop?

As I don't mind what my ranking is, just that I wanted to reach 1300 point will do?

Do I join early or late is better to get into 1300 point.

With a XF 442 L188/ hood 553/Lthor 544 L166 can I reach 1300 point as I wish to get the yellow 4thor
As I now have over 10k of hp to throw. With my roster can it happen that I reach 1300 point? I ok that I'm not in the top 100

I need a little help on how to hit 1300 point
In the pvp. As max I only can reach is 500+

Feel free to look at my roster
I have ISO to max two 3*
Don't mind to buy some hp to max the useful
3* to L166

As I wish to have a good start in the new season
Also I have Lcap max cover. Just that don't know
Is that good to get him to L166. Will he b useful
Next time.

I'm more a pve player then pvp. I'm now try to
Fight more in pvp, but I need help on that.As I have spend few hundred of dollar in the game.
I'm still suck so hope there is a great help from here. I'm new to pvp how it fight in order to gain 1300

I have iso now to max two 3* don't mind to buy some hp too

Xforce L188-442
Lthor L166-544

Max cover
Hood-553
Ironman40-553
Lcap-355

LCap - 342
Hulk-534
Daredevil-543
GBW-515
Psylocke-443
Patch-433
BP-432
Punisher-143
HT-3 red 1 green
Dead pool-333
Cmag-252
Spider-Man-3 yellowtile.png 5 purpletile.png
Falcon-152
Colossus-332
Sentry-332
Loki-1 blacktile.png 5 purpletile.png
Ragnarok-1 greentile.png 5 redtile.png
Grocket-133
Beast-322
Darken-114
Cap marvel-221
Doctor doom-3 blacktile.png 1 bluetile.png
Doctor octopus-1 greentile.png
Mstorm-3 greentile.png 2 yellowtile.png
Mystique-121
Blade -2 blacktile.png
She-hulk-221

Max cover for all 1-2*
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Comments

  • OnesOwnGrief
    OnesOwnGrief Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards
    Join the basic 1AM EST ending time and you should be able to hit 1300 if you're actually able to and have the roster/Hero Points for it. Beware though, those brackets can get crazy.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    The shiled cooldown has been delayed - it won't be introduced while Season IX is running. So hop away.
    As for whetehr you can do it, you'll just have to try it out. A lot of the art of shield hopping is getting a feeling for how many games you can cram in in one hop. Fingerspitzgefühl, as the Germans say.
  • Quebbster wrote:
    The shiled cooldown has been delayed - it won't be introduced while Season IX is running. So hop away.
    As for whetehr you can do it, you'll just have to try it out. A lot of the art of shield hopping is getting a feeling for how many games you can cram in in one hop. Fingerspitzgefühl, as the Germans say.

    This season whole season we can still shield hop right?
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Angela90 wrote:
    Quebbster wrote:
    The shiled cooldown has been delayed - it won't be introduced while Season IX is running. So hop away.
    As for whetehr you can do it, you'll just have to try it out. A lot of the art of shield hopping is getting a feeling for how many games you can cram in in one hop. Fingerspitzgefühl, as the Germans say.

    This season whole season we can still shield hop right?
    You have all season to shield hop. Cooldown will be introduced when the season ends.
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,759 Chairperson of the Boards
    Also with 10K HP you might as well buy the 5th green and 5th black of X-Force. That will be a game changer for you and let you climb very fast in PVP. You can run him with LThor or Hood. Both work well with X-Force. Gaining the AP on black lets you do so many more things and pair X-Force with just about anyone. His green will almost double in power from 4-5. Well worth the investment if you want to do better in PVP. You will still also have 5k left to hop with too.
  • Phaserhawk
    Phaserhawk Posts: 2,676 Chairperson of the Boards
    Once the dumb shield cooldown starts, all it will do is just cause players to jump into PvP sooner, so if you get a late start you probably wont' finish very high, at least that's how I see it, there will be more coordination, alliances will push in groups which other members will que them up, wait till they are shielded, then next group goes, and it will more than likely be so perfectly timed that it won't do much to deter scoring
  • wymtime wrote:
    Also with 10K HP you might as well buy the 5th green and 5th black of X-Force. That will be a game changer for you and let you climb very fast in PVP. You can run him with LThor or Hood. Both work well with X-Force. Gaining the AP on black lets you do so many more things and pair X-Force with just about anyone. His green will almost double in power from 4-5. Well worth the investment if you want to do better in PVP. You will still also have 5k left to hop with too.

    XF 552 is ok to play with in pvp?
    What the lvl to stay in will b much better?max it?

    Hood Is 553 is it still ok or change it to 355

    With XF pairing with Lthor/Lcap / hood I can stay in 1300 point?
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,759 Chairperson of the Boards
    Angela90 wrote:
    wymtime wrote:
    Also with 10K HP you might as well buy the 5th green and 5th black of X-Force. That will be a game changer for you and let you climb very fast in PVP. You can run him with LThor or Hood. Both work well with X-Force. Gaining the AP on black lets you do so many more things and pair X-Force with just about anyone. His green will almost double in power from 4-5. Well worth the investment if you want to do better in PVP. You will still also have 5k left to hop with too.

    XF 552 is ok to play with in pvp?
    What the lvl to stay in will b much better?max it?

    Hood Is 553 is it still ok or change it to 355

    With XF pairing with Lthor/Lcap / hood I can stay in 1300 point?

    Xforce yellow is not essential to have him be awsome. I am still leveling mine but I will not max him level wise yet becuase he will greatly kill your PVE scaling. Low 200's should be good. Keep Hood at 553 as 3,5,5 is only for extreme sentry hopping and that is not in your future since you have X-Force. Your end game will be X-Force/Hood or X/Force LThor depending on health and depending on the buffed character. If the team you are facing has green as there strongest user bring Hood. If Yellow is the strongest user bring LThor. Red strong user bring She-Hulk or Cmags. Blue strong user Cmags.

    A lot of people just boost 2AP to green/Black and take people on. 3 black Matches to SS or 2 Green till X-Force, They will also cascade to each other. Depending on your time slice you can hit 1300 with any of these pairs.
  • Angela90 wrote:
    Now can we still shield hop to gain more point in pvp? Can I still reach 1300 point in pvp?
    Is the cooling off timer can started?

    What is the best point I have then start to hop?

    As I don't mind what my ranking is, just that I wanted to reach 1300 point will do?

    Do I join early or late is better to get into 1300 point.

    With a XF 442 L188/ hood 553/Lthor 544 L166 can I reach 1300 point as I wish to get the yellow 4thor
    As I now have over 10k of hp to throw. With my roster can it happen that I reach 1300 point? I ok that I'm not in the top 100

    I need a little help on how to hit 1300 point
    In the pvp. As max I only can reach is 500+

    Feel free to look at my roster
    I have ISO to max two 3*
    Don't mind to buy some hp to max the useful
    3* to L166

    As I wish to have a good start in the new season
    Also I have Lcap max cover. Just that don't know
    Is that good to get him to L166. Will he b useful
    Next time.

    I'm more a pve player then pvp. I'm now try to
    Fight more in pvp, but I need help on that.As I have spend few hundred of dollar in the game.
    I'm still suck so hope there is a great help from here. I'm new to pvp how it fight in order to gain 1300

    I have iso now to max two 3* don't mind to buy some hp too

    Xforce L188-442
    Lthor L166-544

    Max cover
    Hood-553
    Ironman40-553
    Lcap-355

    LCap - 342
    Hulk-534
    Daredevil-543
    GBW-515
    Psylocke-443
    Patch-433
    BP-432
    Punisher-143
    HT-3 red 1 green
    Dead pool-333
    Cmag-252
    Spider-Man-3 yellowtile.png 5 purpletile.png
    Falcon-152
    Colossus-332
    Sentry-332
    Loki-1 blacktile.png 5 purpletile.png
    Ragnarok-1 greentile.png 5 redtile.png
    Grocket-133
    Beast-322
    Darken-114
    Cap marvel-221
    Doctor doom-3 blacktile.png 1 bluetile.png
    Doctor octopus-1 greentile.png
    Mstorm-3 greentile.png 2 yellowtile.png
    Mystique-121
    Blade -2 blacktile.png
    She-hulk-221

    Max cover for all 1-2*

    Join the last pvp end time bracket. 5,5,3 x- force at least Lv 200, and your hood Lviv 166. And get very good at finishing 3* and 4*s in less than 3 mins.

    One very important advice that I can give you is that when you reach 850- to 900 shield for 8 hours que a few 26 to 50 point fights, get a good night sleep and when you wake up hopefully before your shield runs out you might have def points to your favor.
    From there do two fights if possible in less than 5 mins and shield for 3 or 8 hrs depending on your schedule. If you shield for 3 then repeat the above steps again (que 26-50 point) until you get to around 1050-1100.
    After that it'll be I fight per hop and hopefully you'll find 25 and above point fights.

    Note: if you just want progression rewards, keep on eye on your bracket when you see the top guys hopping que them but don't attack them until they shield again. It is very important that you don't piss off the more experience players or anyone when you are hopping. after Everyone in your bracket is shielded it's you turn to hop one fight and shield 3 hours, repeat this steps and you can get the 1300 reward with no problem.

    Remember 1 fight per hop!!
  • Teno1 wrote:
    Angela90 wrote:
    Now can we still shield hop to gain more point in pvp? Can I still reach 1300 point in pvp?
    Is the cooling off timer can started?

    What is the best point I have then start to hop?

    As I don't mind what my ranking is, just that I wanted to reach 1300 point will do?

    Do I join early or late is better to get into 1300 point.

    With a XF 442 L188/ hood 553/Lthor 544 L166 can I reach 1300 point as I wish to get the yellow 4thor
    As I now have over 10k of hp to throw. With my roster can it happen that I reach 1300 point? I ok that I'm not in the top 100

    I need a little help on how to hit 1300 point
    In the pvp. As max I only can reach is 500+

    Feel free to look at my roster
    I have ISO to max two 3*
    Don't mind to buy some hp to max the useful
    3* to L166

    As I wish to have a good start in the new season
    Also I have Lcap max cover. Just that don't know
    Is that good to get him to L166. Will he b useful
    Next time.

    I'm more a pve player then pvp. I'm now try to
    Fight more in pvp, but I need help on that.As I have spend few hundred of dollar in the game.
    I'm still suck so hope there is a great help from here. I'm new to pvp how it fight in order to gain 1300

    I have iso now to max two 3* don't mind to buy some hp too

    Xforce L188-442
    Lthor L166-544

    Max cover
    Hood-553
    Ironman40-553
    Lcap-355

    LCap - 342
    Hulk-534
    Daredevil-543
    GBW-515
    Psylocke-443
    Patch-433
    BP-432
    Punisher-143
    HT-3 red 1 green
    Dead pool-333
    Cmag-252
    Spider-Man-3 yellowtile.png 5 purpletile.png
    Falcon-152
    Colossus-332
    Sentry-332
    Loki-1 blacktile.png 5 purpletile.png
    Ragnarok-1 greentile.png 5 redtile.png
    Grocket-133
    Beast-322
    Darken-114
    Cap marvel-221
    Doctor doom-3 blacktile.png 1 bluetile.png
    Doctor octopus-1 greentile.png
    Mstorm-3 greentile.png 2 yellowtile.png
    Mystique-121
    Blade -2 blacktile.png
    She-hulk-221

    Max cover for all 1-2*

    Join the last pvp end time bracket. 5,5,3 x- force at least Lv 200, and your hood Lviv 166. And get very good at finishing 3* and 4*s in less than 3 mins.

    One very important advice that I can give you is that when you reach 850- to 900 shield for 8 hours que a few 26 to 50 point fights, get a good night sleep and when you wake up hopefully before your shield runs out you might have def points to your favor.
    From there do two fights if possible in less than 5 mins and shield for 3 or 8 hrs depending on your schedule. If you shield for 3 then repeat the above steps again (que 26-50 point) until you get to around 1050-1100.
    After that it'll be I fight per hop and hopefully you'll find 25 and above point fights.

    Note: if you just want progression rewards, keep on eye on your bracket when you see the top guys hopping que them but don't attack them until they shield again. It is very important that you don't piss off the more experience players or anyone when you are hopping. after Everyone in your bracket is shielded it's you turn to hop one fight and shield 3 hours, repeat this steps and you can get the 1300 reward with no problem.

    Remember 1 fight per hop!!

    When then I start to use my XF & hood.
    But the main char I have not max out. So will I still hit 1300 point if I have only XF over L200 hood l166
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Just try it rather than asking the same question over and over. You'll never know until you try
  • hurcules
    hurcules Posts: 519
    Angela90 wrote:
    When then I start to use my XF & hood.
    You can use the pair all the time. Starting from zero. Use healthpacks, loaner, and Prologue heal where necessary. Out of healthpacks and all dead? put the game down for 2.5h and let healthpacks regenerate, and hopefully get some nice defensive wins along the way.

    And what Spoit says.
  • Weapon tex-mex need help in hop

    Stuck at 700+ point. I'm keeping losing point now.
    All the match I have is like wall of 270/229 XF random 166 or 249 dead pool 166 wall

    I have a dead pool that is only L60 333 XF 211 542 hood 553 dead pool
    Do I need to lvl up my dead pool now
  • Personally I think you are trying to aim to high for your roster. I would join a top 100 alliance aim for 800pts with one 3hour shield or two per pvp. Save HP and ISO for later in the game. I use X-force at 200 and max Cmag to reach that every pvp. Once you get Hulk and patch level up you can shield hop with them too. With 3green/black and 50% green/black damage boost (300 iso) I get 2 or 3 quick match per hop with them.
  • I use the +1 all AP cost me 100hp. It better to launch all the skill ASAP will b better then having 50% in attacking.
    Higher I reach now is at 799 point icon_e_sad.gif
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have to agree, if you can't get higher than 800 you are probably not ready to shield-hop like a pro. Start by learning when you start to get a lot of retaliations and shield there. Find high-value targets while shielded and take them out quickly when you break shield. Then shield again, rinse and repeat. The more often you can do this, the higher you'll reach. I can usually get up to 900 point before any significant retaliations start coming in, then I can do around 100 points for each 3 hour shield. The higher you get the more risky it becomes.
    You'll probably not be able to reach 1300 points immediately, but practice makes perfect. If you can hit 1100 points consistently you are halfway there at least.
  • Quebbster wrote:
    I have to agree, if you can't get higher than 800 you are probably not ready to shield-hop like a pro. Start by learning when you start to get a lot of retaliations and shield there. Find high-value targets while shielded and take them out quickly when you break shield. Then shield again, rinse and repeat. The more often you can do this, the higher you'll reach. I can usually get up to 900 point before any significant retaliations start coming in, then I can do around 100 points for each 3 hour shield. The higher you get the more risky it becomes.
    You'll probably not be able to reach 1300 points immediately, but practice makes perfect. If you can hit 1100 points consistently you are halfway there at least.

    I reach 700+ point I started to see 40+ guy
    But mostly is team that is L249 with XF L270 hood L166 / L249 with XF over L229 L166
    Facing the wall of L166/L270/L249 or L249/270/270 or L249/L166/L166
    Team that I cannot beat them at all icon_e_sad.gif
    That the reason why I'm stuck in 700+ point.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Angela90 wrote:
    Quebbster wrote:
    I have to agree, if you can't get higher than 800 you are probably not ready to shield-hop like a pro. Start by learning when you start to get a lot of retaliations and shield there. Find high-value targets while shielded and take them out quickly when you break shield. Then shield again, rinse and repeat. The more often you can do this, the higher you'll reach. I can usually get up to 900 point before any significant retaliations start coming in, then I can do around 100 points for each 3 hour shield. The higher you get the more risky it becomes.
    You'll probably not be able to reach 1300 points immediately, but practice makes perfect. If you can hit 1100 points consistently you are halfway there at least.

    I reach 700+ point I started to see 40+ guy
    But mostly is team that is L249 with XF L270 hood L166 / L249 with XF over L229 L166
    Facing the wall of L166/L270/L249 or L249/270/270 or L249/L166/L166
    Team that I cannot beat them at all icon_e_sad.gif
    That the reason why I'm stuck in 700+ point.
    Do you try to fight them and lose or do you just skip them? It's obviously a high risk, high reward deal, but the game is in the attacking playet's favor. Use boosts and mean teamups to increase your chances.
    If you do all that and still cannot gain ground, you probably have to strengthen your roster and sharpen your skills in the game...
  • I have use the +3 AP blacktile.pnggreentile.pngredtile.pngyellowtile.png boots. Spend 100hp on the +3 all AP
    What do I need to learn?
    Is that I having the L60/L210/L166 VS the wall of max out team so I'm always in the losing end icon_e_sad.gif
    As I only have 2 max out L166 the rest of them is all at L40 for all my 3*
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Angela90 wrote:
    I have use the AP boots. Spend 100hp on the all color
    What do I need to learn?
    Is that I having the L60/L210/L166 VS the wall of max out team so I'm always in the losing end icon_e_sad.gif
    As I only have 2 max out L166 the rest of them is all at L40 for all my 3*
    You can do just fine with a loaner character on the offense, though it does make you a bigger target and means you cannot play as many games before getting hit.
    If you are playing X-force Wolverine, you should be playing the Black/green AP boost as that powers his attacks. You can use +3 Black/Green AP boosts and +2 all AP and conserve some of that HP - you start with 5 green and black which means you are one match away from an X-force attack and two matches away from a Surgical Strike. Hood makes it go faster as well, of course.
    Playing skills is just learning what moves benefit you the most and who is the most urgent to take out. For example, if you face another Hood you should probably take him out immediately, but learning who is most important to take out is tricky. When you lose a game, try to analyze what went wrong and see if you do better when you tackel the problem in another manner.