Attempt to lower bracket failed. Am I doing something wrong?

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Okay, this is what I tried to do a few times.

First, I go to a Lightning Round, score up to 50 points. After that, I go to a random opponent, battle using the Lv 15 villain, plus my lv 1 Yelena and Lv 1 Venom. Then I retreated and selected yield. I do this at least twice.

Then I wait for the next round.

It did not work. I am still fighting 85 Thors and Storms. The lowest level I've ever faced is no less than 50.

Am I doing something wrong here?

I have a few other questions.

1) How do you "tank" a match? Is it similar to the method that I've described?

2) What is an MMR? How is it different from a bracket?

3) Is it possible to face opponents under level 10 again? I'm very certain those players exist, but I can never get into their bracket.

Unknown

Go higher than 50 before u start tanking

Unknown

What is your team? Almost everyone with any time into the game probably has a Thor, Wolvie, Storm team leveled up. What are you expecting to face?


To tank properly (which doesn't work as well as before) get up to 250 points in 40 minutes or less then put out the tanking team

Unknown

OP, can you list your team? Would lead to better tips/advice from the experienced players.

Nemek

DumDumDugn wrote:

Go higher than 50 before u start tanking

Yeah, after beating the seed teams, I'm probably up to 200ish already. You're a much more attractive target with 200+ points and a low level team. I probably get attacked 30+ times by the end of the round.

Unknown

Honestly, even just getting to 100 will be better than 50. The higher your score before you start tanking, you'll be a juicier target, more players will see you, and you'll be able to take more defeats before your score drops to where it's not worth it for people to beat you up.

But I doubt you'll find much lower targets in a lightning round than maxed 2*s, least ones worth many points.

Unknown

yeah i get to 100 first. 100 is good because you get the 250 iso reward which is pretty decent for 2 more games. after that the next thing is the standard token at 250 which is dramatically **** since it usually works out to 100 iso for another 6+ games played.

Unknown

My team is 85 Thor and 85 Wolverine.

The problem with Thor is that after 2 matches, he takes at least 1000 damage. Wolverine has no such problem. Tried to use Wolverine and Daken together for their HP regen, but failed, too low DPS.

As for what I'm hoping to face, preferably low levels. Like the Iron Man and Juggies.

Can someone answer my other questions?

1) How do you "tank" a match? Is it similar to the method that I've described?

2) What is an MMR? How is it different from a bracket?

3) Is it possible to face opponents under level 10 again? I'm very certain those players exist, but I can never get into their bracket.

Unknown

1) How do you "tank" a match? Is it similar to the method that I've described?
Yes, you simply get your points up to 200 ish and put up a low level team to lose on purpose to lower your MMR

2) What is an MMR? How is it different from a bracket?
MMR - Hidden rating in the game system. Higher MMR leads to stronger team which is why you want to tank

Bracket is like the sub events in the hulk event or those 2 day tournaments where you are competing to place high vs 500(whatever number) of people.

3) Is it possible to face opponents under level 10 again? I'm very certain those players exist, but I can never get into their bracket

There is no bracket full of lvl 10 people. It's based on your MMR

Unknown

Can I ask why you would want to beat up on weaker teams? Your Thor and Wolvie should be strong enough to take on anyone. I understand not wanting to push so high you only see 115 Ragnarok, etc.

Seems like you want to get in the ring with toddlers instead of challenging for the title.

Unknown

mechgouki wrote:

My team is 85 Thor and 85 Wolverine.

The problem with Thor is that after 2 matches, he takes at least 1000 damage. Wolverine has no such problem. Tried to use Wolverine and Daken together for their HP regen, but failed, too low DPS.

Quit using Thor.

Use OBW instead, presuming you went 3/5/5. She won't take away matches you want Wolvie making, and the matches she does make will be double pumped from Espionage and strike tiles. Plus she can heal herself if she's damaged.

If you're going to be forced to use Thor, you're pretty much toast because you'll run out of health packs before you get high enough ranking.

As for tanking -- you're (probably) never going to see those teams you're asking about. The most you can hope for is getting your MMR low enough that you only see seed teams for the first few matches, and then you'll see either max level 1* or mid/high level Thorverine/OBWolvie/Thorm/WolvieStorm teams. And after those you'll see mid level villain teams, on up to high level villain teams. The really low level players just don't do LR, or there are so few of them you're unlikely to see them.

And note that tanking is being drastically reduced in effectiveness as best I can tell.

Unknown

Zathrus wrote:

Quit using Thor.

Not sure I agree. If you are pushing for the top of a LR you need to be as fast as possible. Boosting with +3 all, +3 r/y, and +3 green with Thor/Wolverine ( 5 red Thor and 5 green Wolverine) is how I broke into top 8 Ragnarok. OBW is great, but if you can grab a couple of red matches at the start of a round with that setup, the match is probably over.

Unknown

_fulu_ wrote:

Can I ask why you would want to beat up on weaker teams? Your Thor and Wolvie should be strong enough to take on anyone. I understand not wanting to push so high you only see 115 Ragnarok, etc.

Seems like you want to get in the ring with toddlers instead of challenging for the title.

That is kind of true. I want an easier time, as opposed to challenging strong enemies to get that sense of satisfaction. Path of least resistance, in a sense.

But please wait, allow me to describe a situation you might seem to remember.

First, I got my IM35, my Modern Storm, my Juggernaut, completed. I'm happy, and I take them to tourneys to play with other people.

Then, I got my **** handed to me, by the 2 stars 85 characters. In a tourney where I'm supposed to be facing people my level, I suddenly am forced to fight Level 85s. Try as I might, I can never defeat the 85 Thors, in one attempt anyway.

So fine, I go back, I work slowly, grind slowly, build my own 2 Stars.

Tadah! My 2 stars are complete! I go out to tourneys again, using my 2 stars. Then guess what? I got my **** handed to me again, by 3-stars, in a tournament that's supposed to have people around my level.

Does this situation sound familiar to you?

When will it stop? It's just never good enough. They force us to fight against players with levels far above ours, but never allow us to fight players with levels far lower.

How is this fair? Simply put, I'm tired of having my **** handed to me. I'll face babies if that's what it takes.

Unknown

And note that tanking is being drastically reduced in effectiveness as best I can tell.

@Zathrus

So it's true that tanking has their effect reduced? I'm not just imagining it?

I seem to notice it not working as well as it did previously.

My OBW is at 3/5/3.

I intially was under the false impression that more purple is better, so I aimed at 5/5/3 and sold all my blacks. Fortunately, I realized my mistake before I placed any more purples. Still, I'm at least 1 black short, won't be able to use her effectively until I get it.

Unknown

mechgouki wrote:

_fulu_ wrote:

Can I ask why you would want to beat up on weaker teams? Your Thor and Wolvie should be strong enough to take on anyone. I understand not wanting to push so high you only see 115 Ragnarok, etc.

Seems like you want to get in the ring with toddlers instead of challenging for the title.

That is kind of true. I want an easier time, as opposed to challenging strong enemies to get that sense of satisfaction. Path of least resistance, in a sense.

But please wait, allow me to describe a situation you might seem to remember.

First, I got my IM35, my Modern Storm, my Juggernaut, completed. I'm happy, and I take them to tourneys to play with other people.

Then, I got my **** handed to me, by the 2 stars 85 characters. In a tourney where I'm supposed to be facing people my level, I suddenly am forced to fight Level 85s. Try as I might, I can never defeat the 85 Thors, in one attempt anyway.

So fine, I go back, I work slowly, grind slowly, build my own 2 Stars.

Tadah! My 2 stars are complete! I go out to tourneys again, using my 2 stars. Then guess what? I got my **** handed to me again, by 3-stars, in a tournament that's supposed to have people around my level.

Does this situation sound familiar to you?

When will it stop? It's just never good enough. They force us to fight against players with levels far above ours, but never allow us to fight players with levels far lower.

How is this fair? Simply put, I'm tired of having my **** handed to me. I'll face babies if that's what it takes.

It doesn't stop. Wait til you get a maxed 3* team and then get stuck in MMR hell fighting 115/141/141 rag/mag/spidey EVERY MATCH

Unknown

DumDumDugn wrote:

mechgouki wrote:

_fulu_ wrote:

Can I ask why you would want to beat up on weaker teams? Your Thor and Wolvie should be strong enough to take on anyone. I understand not wanting to push so high you only see 115 Ragnarok, etc.

Seems like you want to get in the ring with toddlers instead of challenging for the title.

That is kind of true. I want an easier time, as opposed to challenging strong enemies to get that sense of satisfaction. Path of least resistance, in a sense.

But please wait, allow me to describe a situation you might seem to remember.

First, I got my IM35, my Modern Storm, my Juggernaut, completed. I'm happy, and I take them to tourneys to play with other people.

Then, I got my **** handed to me, by the 2 stars 85 characters. In a tourney where I'm supposed to be facing people my level, I suddenly am forced to fight Level 85s. Try as I might, I can never defeat the 85 Thors, in one attempt anyway.

So fine, I go back, I work slowly, grind slowly, build my own 2 Stars.

Tadah! My 2 stars are complete! I go out to tourneys again, using my 2 stars. Then guess what? I got my **** handed to me again, by 3-stars, in a tournament that's supposed to have people around my level.

Does this situation sound familiar to you?

When will it stop? It's just never good enough. They force us to fight against players with levels far above ours, but never allow us to fight players with levels far lower.

How is this fair? Simply put, I'm tired of having my **** handed to me. I'll face babies if that's what it takes.

It doesn't stop. Wait til you get a maxed 3* team and then get stuck in MMR hell fighting 115/141/141 rag/mag/spidey EVERY MATCH

MMR is something that does need some fixing. It's really not that hard to outstrip yourself and hit the wall of 'everyone I'm facing is more progressed than I am'.

Unknown

Kyosokun wrote:

Honestly, even just getting to 100 will be better than 50. The higher your score before you start tanking, you'll be a juicier target, more players will see you, and you'll be able to take more defeats before your score drops to where it's not worth it for people to beat you up.

But I doubt you'll find much lower targets in a lightning round than maxed 2*s, least ones worth many points.

I had huge success lowering my MMR doing exactly this. I tried to get to 100 in each lightning round to get those rewards and then I'd stop and put in my tanking team. After doing this basically all day, so about 5 or so lightning rounds, my MMR was sufficiently lowered to give me a good 2 to 3 hours tonight of opponents I could beat in the Double shot tourney and the lightning rounds.
Got up to 700 points and 2nd in my double shot bracket before shielding. Also managed to play out a full Mags lightning round before the MMR caught back up.

Lather, rinse, repeat!

Unknown

Zathrus wrote:

mechgouki wrote:

My team is 85 Thor and 85 Wolverine.

The problem with Thor is that after 2 matches, he takes at least 1000 damage. Wolverine has no such problem. Tried to use Wolverine and Daken together for their HP regen, but failed, too low DPS.

Quit using Thor.

Use OBW instead, presuming you went 3/5/5. She won't take away matches you want Wolvie making, and the matches she does make will be double pumped from Espionage and strike tiles. Plus she can heal herself if she's damaged.

I use Wolvie/Thor/scrubvillain in LR too. When Thor gets lowish (2k) I jump in a prologue match (usually I go against lvl 21 juggy, decent health with low damage) with OBW in my team instead of scrubvillain and heal them up. It takes no more than a couple of matches to top them, which is probably 2-3 mins, and I rarely do this more than twice per LR.
I find this is preferable than playing OBW in LR, because:
a) Thor kills so much faster, so overall you are still saving time, even if you sink 5-6 mins for healing. How are you gonna kill 10k hp buffed chars without his awesome direct damage?
b) OBW is such a juicy target on defense, pairing her with already low-health Wolvie will get you killed IMHO. Thor won't scare any high level player, but he's a load to take down for lowly teams (which usually are the ones costing you more points) and always a lucky cascade away from ruining your day.
I try to save the health packs for the very last minutes, and until now never even came close to run out.