Shields Assessment Post Round 1 of Double Shot
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I personally found using Shields in Lightning Rounds is a little risky if aiming for Diabolic Tokens.
I used one in the last 15 minutes when I was in #26. By the time it ended, I got shifted all the way to #36.
The difference between the scores in the ranks between #26-50 is like 1 point per 3 ranks. You get 3 people with the exact same scores etc.0 -
I didn't start this tournament until there were 12 hours left due to the patch error not letting me connect. Once it was fixed I started and by the time there was 8 hours left I was in first at 1023 points. The next player was at 600 something. I put up an 8 hour shield and went to bed. I woke up in second place and actually gained 1 point from attacks. The player in first had 1402 points with one hour left. I didn't bother trying anything, I just kept checking to see if anybody else was close to passing me. I finished second which was fine, I didn't really care about the Invisible woman cover but I used all 3 Spideys. Someone behind me had a shield up at 400 points exactly. I don't know if my placement was due to my starting late and getting a weaker bracket, people being unable to play due to the patch error, others shield usage, or a combination of all 3.0
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DumDumDugn wrote:_fulu_ wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:got both invis woman and xforce wolv so cant complain
Sure you can. They are awful . But me too
My invis woman is 3/3/3 now. Starting to get tempted into dumping ISO into her lol
Resist. RESIST. For all the ISO I dumped into X force Wolvie I could have maxxed out my hulk, Punisher, and Widow from where they sit. (115, 95, and 50)
If you have no 3* left to level then go for it, otherwise you'll weep in shame as I do everytime I look at my cover gallery0 -
_fulu_ wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:_fulu_ wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:got both invis woman and xforce wolv so cant complain
Sure you can. They are awful . But me too
My invis woman is 3/3/3 now. Starting to get tempted into dumping ISO into her lol
Resist. RESIST. For all the ISO I dumped into X force Wolvie I could have maxxed out my hulk, Punisher, and Widow from where they sit. (115, 95, and 50)
If you have no 3* left to level then go for it, otherwise you'll weep in shame as I do everytime I look at my cover gallery
I still need to finish my widow first (107). Then maaaaaaaaaaaybe0 -
Thanks to a lot of people in the top 45 shielding, I managed to snag 16th (missed 15th by a single loss ). Which is way better than I would do without shields. Had one 8 hour shield for while I was sleeping. Net gain of 50 HP and a yellow Spidey, not bad. Top 10 shielding actually means a lot less retaliations from people that will beat you in seconds, since they don't attack you.0
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I 8 hour shielded at 26th place (with 7 hours left to go) for the double shot and was [like someone else] hoping to get all 3 Daken covers. I ended up placing 40th and getting yellow spiderman.0
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DumDumDugn wrote:_fulu_ wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:got both invis woman and xforce wolv so cant complain
Sure you can. They are awful . But me too
My invis woman is 3/3/3 now. Starting to get tempted into dumping ISO into her lol
What build do you think she's good with? I still need my yellows but I've got 3/3 green and blue and not sure which ones to max out.0 -
jozier wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:_fulu_ wrote:DumDumDugn wrote:got both invis woman and xforce wolv so cant complain
Sure you can. They are awful . But me too
My invis woman is 3/3/3 now. Starting to get tempted into dumping ISO into her lol
What build do you think she's good with? I still need my yellows but I've got 3/3 green and blue and not sure which ones to max out.
I'm aiming for 3/5/50 -
As a general comment, we have no idea if they fixed tournament scoring or not, but the fact that EVERYONE was hitting the progression rewards for the first time in weeks (if not longer) is a positive in my book. Whether that can be attributed to shields or a hidden tweak of scoring is not something I can say for certain. But I've barely been able to hit 800, sometimes 700, in the last number of tournaments prior to Ironclad Double Shot. And now 1400 is easy enough. That's great.0
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Misguided wrote:Iron Batman wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens once everyone burns out their stockpile of HP. Will people be satisfied with a 3 hour shield for the 400 progression reward?
That won't happen. I netted three hundred HP, even with the shield cost. And if I had needed all the covers I sold, it would still have been a net of 150. I still think the point loss is wonky in the 300-600 range, but I doubt it will get fixed, since people were able to climb to such high scores.
I agree with Misguided. I pushed to the 600 pt progression, didnt shield and dropped to low 400s then made a second push up to 1100 and hit a 3hr shield about 2 hours out. I would have pushed for 1400 but didnt have time (stupid work).
Here is what I earned:
Tokens: 25HP (pulled/sold a IM40 red)
Progressions: 175 (150HP raw, sold IM50 red)
Placement: 100HP (was 1st in my bracket, but top 45 get 100hp)
Total: 300HP
I used a 3hr shield for 50HP so I had a net gain of 250HP. Pretty darn good in my mind. And if I had not needed a Loki I pulled from a token (25hp), the Invisible Hag-woman (50hp) and pushed to the 1300 pt progression (25hp) I could have cleared another 100HP. If I was lucky with my standard tokens it would have been even higher.
Aside from my improved rewards (disclosure: I pushed harder than I generally do) I like the added strategy of timing pushes plus reducing the feeding frenzy of the last 30-45 minutes.0 -
I did not shielded. Placed at 950 (about) and top 15 in my bracket. Did not play at the end at all. All first 10 people in my bracket were shielded and top 3 was shielded multiple times during event. I see that it will be nice time to tank at the end of tourney bcos everybody shields themselves at this time0
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I tried to make a push at the 1000 progression reward but kept getting knocked back down. It was getting very late for me as well so once I got to the 920s and 3rd place I shielded up (the cheap one as there were under 3 hrs left). Woke up today in the top 5 so managed to get my purple Spidey.0
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I grinded a bit, shielded myself for the night, did some more grinding, got all the progression rewards, reached 1400 something and got Top-5 (probably #2).
My summary: Shields are the bomb.0 -
Use 3 3hour shield over the course of a day. Gain all the HP back by progression awards and placing #5. It also allowed me to get up to around 850 points (although I was close to reaching 1000 but my shield ran out over night and I got whomped for -155 points. I like them but only because I had some expendable HP to use. It's not something I'll be able to use on a regular basis unless there's another PvE event where I can rack up some HP. I'd be pretty bummed if I had to spend real money just to protect my hard work.0
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I don't know, I think it just adds another Pay to Win mechanic in, even if there is a strategic element attached. The people that are going to use a lot of shields either play this game a ton or have money to spare. The rich will get richer. If they start giving out free shields as awards, I'd be more supportive of it.0
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They practically give shields out for free as rewards. It's beyond simple to get to 400 as a progression reward and there's free HP in the daily rewards, etc.0
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Sasquatchkid wrote:I don't know, I think it just adds another Pay to Win mechanic in, even if there is a strategic element attached. The people that are going to use a lot of shields either play this game a ton or have money to spare. The rich will get richer. If they start giving out free shields as awards, I'd be more supportive of it.
Theoretically it helps the unshielded as much if not more than the shielded. My eyes light up at finding a 30 pt target that i know won't retaliate for awhile if at all. Thus you can boost your score much easier than before without the constant hits to your rating. The hp progressions are easy to reach as has been outlined by many.0 -
_fulu_ wrote:Sasquatchkid wrote:I don't know, I think it just adds another Pay to Win mechanic in, even if there is a strategic element attached. The people that are going to use a lot of shields either play this game a ton or have money to spare. The rich will get richer. If they start giving out free shields as awards, I'd be more supportive of it.
Theoretically it helps the unshielded as much if not more than the shielded. My eyes light up at finding a 30 pt target that i know won't retaliate for awhile if at all. Thus you can boost your score much easier than before without the constant hits to your rating. The hp progressions are easy to reach as has been outlined by many.
This. It IS a HP drain, but doesn't need to cost any actual money. So, you do have a choice: what do you want to spend your resources on? Shield to help you progress further and place better, or save the HP up for some other purpose?0 -
They will raise shield prices dramatically soon, so use them now while you can.
From an economic standpoint this is a big fail. They're giving out more covers from progression rewards as well as more HP. Covers were already probably more plentiful than they wanted, although that's speculation. What is not speculation is that having a loop where you get more cash currency than you spend in a freemium game is like, the most broken thing ever and it will not continue.0 -
I'm very pleased, as both a worker and a Brit - bought a 24 hour shield way to early to challenge realistically (710 points), but still kept a top 15th spot while at work and won my first ever Spider-man blue & Spider-man yellow.
(710 Because I foolishly blew all my heals on a lightning round even though nothing less than 2nd would have been any sue to me - can do better!)0
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