Nellobee wrote: Short answer:yes. Remember that the forumites are not even remotely representative of the player base at large.
lukewin wrote: Yes, if you are talking about 3* covers. I am in a Top 5 PVE alliance, because that is my strength. Roster isn't strong enough to reliably finish above 600 in PVP, which means I only get Top 100 cover, unless desirable cover (like Colossus) where more people play, which pushes me out. In PVE, I can get all the rewards. Unfortunately, the progression rewards are usually only 1 cover per event. The final rewards, I am usually able to get Top 5, if not Top 2, so that's 3 covers, and 1 for alliance. With only new covers being rewarded, I am getting all the new characters, with 4 covers, but normally nothing after that. For the effort I'm putting in (hours), the amount of 3* covers I'm getting is horrible. Add to that, all the event and heroic tokens I get award me 2*s. Not enough to discourage me from playing, but enough for me to notice. Top 100 Alliances in PVP = max of 20,000 people getting 1 Alliance cover.
Chaotic Ryu wrote: I have to agree with you. The only money I ever spent on this game was to purchase roster slots. Any covers, shields, etc. I bought was all through HP I have collected and gather from events. However, I do find death brackets to be an issue. Being placed into a bracket where Top 25 needs like 1300 is very anti-fun. It puts much more stress and pressure from the competition on you than necessary. Also, with no way to know what bracket you get into and who is in it, it becomes more and more of a gamble.
RemoDestroyer wrote: lukewin wrote: Yes, if you are talking about 3* covers. I am in a Top 5 PVE alliance, because that is my strength. Roster isn't strong enough to reliably finish above 600 in PVP, which means I only get Top 100 cover, unless desirable cover (like Colossus) where more people play, which pushes me out. In PVE, I can get all the rewards. Unfortunately, the progression rewards are usually only 1 cover per event. The final rewards, I am usually able to get Top 5, if not Top 2, so that's 3 covers, and 1 for alliance. With only new covers being rewarded, I am getting all the new characters, with 4 covers, but normally nothing after that. For the effort I'm putting in (hours), the amount of 3* covers I'm getting is horrible. Add to that, all the event and heroic tokens I get award me 2*s. Not enough to discourage me from playing, but enough for me to notice. Top 100 Alliances in PVP = max of 20,000 people getting 1 Alliance cover. OK. Those are good points. I don't want it to seem like I'm trolling but my perception is the rewards structure is considered very unsatisfactory by the players which I don't totally agree with. The reward structure has been changed and very likely will be again to get a good balance of being challenging but not impossible. I do remember when I started playing mpq that PvE was easier and PvP sucked then at some point it flipped. I do feel like it should take a little time and effort to place in the top 5 and 25. I figured placing in the top 300 and a decent chance of winning 2* covers from versus matches would make it relatively easy to build a 2* roster. I've seen plenty of 2* and donor teams able to put up 675+ points which isn't too bad and should be good enough for top 100. It will take a little while to build a 3* character 1 or 2 covers at a time and could be frustrating. I did start playing almost when the game came out and didn't max my first 3* until about the time alliances came out. I will say tokens can't be counted on to build a roster as the odds for a 3* are abysmal.
OK. Those are good points. I don't want it to seem like I'm trolling but my perception is the rewards structure is considered very unsatisfactory by the players which I don't totally agree with. The reward structure has been changed and very likely will be again to get a good balance of being challenging but not impossible. I do remember when I started playing mpq that PvE was easier and PvP sucked then at some point it flipped. I do feel like it should take a little time and effort to place in the top 5 and 25. I figured placing in the top 300 and a decent chance of winning 2* covers from versus matches would make it relatively easy to build a 2* roster. I've seen plenty of 2* and donor teams able to put up 675+ points which isn't too bad and should be good enough for top 100. It will take a little while to build a 3* character 1 or 2 covers at a time and could be frustrating. I did start playing almost when the game came out and didn't max my first 3* until about the time alliances came out. I will say tokens can't be counted on to build a roster as the odds for a 3* are abysmal.
lukewin wrote: I have been slowly cruising along the plateau that is the road to 3* land, which is made even longer by constant new characters being introduced. I've got a deep 3* roster, so variety isn't a problem, but usefulness is.
DrStrange-616 wrote: lukewin wrote: I have been slowly cruising along the plateau that is the road to 3* land, which is made even longer by constant new characters being introduced. I've got a deep 3* roster, so variety isn't a problem, but usefulness is. This sums it up for me. I've been playing for about 3 months. I have 37 roster spots filled. 23 of those are low-covered 3*s. It's possible to win a 3* cover in events, but getting covers I need is another story. The constant addition of new characters makes it really hard to find covers for the really useful stalwarts. I know it's not supposed to be easy, nor do I want it to be, but there are days when I think it might take me two or three months to get a cover or two for a character I really want to level and, even then, I have to get lucky. Granted, I don't really have another reference point, but for me, getting cover rewards is hard(ish).
Square wrote: For the people frustrated that they aren't getting enough covers, how fast should you be getting them?
fmftint wrote: There is no answer to this problem, players with rosters say it's fine, players with out say it's too slow. Any change will upset the other camp
Square wrote: I don't think so. I've been playing under six months, and have an X-Force with 13 covers, and a Lazy Cap with 13. I have another 3* with 12, a few more with 11, 10, 9. I have a lot of 3* that are steadily getting stronger, all through PVE and PVP rewards, plus some lucky covers from random covers. If the covers came easily, people just wouldn't play. I think when I have a strong roster in 2-3 months, I'll feel that I earned it. I put in some time, and come in top 25 in all PVPs, so I've gotten 20-30 3* covers in Season 7. That seems totally reasonable, a solid pace. I also think the set colours is for the best. My X-Force is 5/3/5, and of course I want it 5/5/3, but that gives me something to work on in the future. Getting every cover I need will probably be the point when I quit the game. For the people frustrated that they aren't getting enough covers, how fast should you be getting them?