Which Two-Star Should Be Paired With Hulk?

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Due to being kind of unlucky with the covers I get from tokens, my only that is close to being fully levelled is Hulk. He's currently at 5/3/4 and I am actually thinking of buying another red cover so I can fully level him. I'm just sick of getting attacked by fully build 3-star-teams all the time in PVP as soon as I reach 400 points.
So, my question is: Who is the best team-mate for ? I have all major characters fully levelled. (My usual team is still / )

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IronGrrrl wrote:

Due to being kind of unlucky with the covers I get from tokens, my only that is close to being fully levelled is Hulk. He's currently at 5/3/4 and I am actually thinking of buying another red cover so I can fully level him. I'm just sick of getting attacked by fully build 3-star-teams all the time in PVP as soon as I reach 400 points.
So, my question is: Who is the best team-mate for ? I have all major characters fully levelled. (My usual team is still / )

First, do not buy a red cover, wait til you get another black cover. Secondly don't rush to level him up, it'll be harder to get Anger to trigger when he's too beefy. Now to answer your question, he pairs well with Daken and a strong green user. Ares, Thor, Human Torch. When you get your 5th black cover he'll cause minor damage to your team when Anger triggers, but if you have friendly strike tiles (Daken) it can inflict a nice chunk of damage to the enemy. I only use Thunderous Clap when I need to get rid of several enemy special tiles. I rarely use his red because it'll drain your green. He can also be used with Storm, when you have a bunch of green (15+) use Lightning which should help collect enough blue while also getting rid of some problematic enemy tiles.

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Red Panda wrote:

First, do not buy a red cover, wait til you get another black cover. Secondly don't rush to level him up, it'll be harder to get Anger to trigger when he's too beefy.

This is exactly why I don't really see the use of a fifth black cover. This and the fact that it deals damage to my own team as well as the enemy's team - I just really dislike abilities like that, especially after "True Healing"...
Thanks for your other advice, though, I think I'll try using him with Daken. I've never really played Daken before, so this is going to be interesting

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I've used him with Ares and OBW in PvE. He tanked for green, red and black for me protecting Ares and OBW to an extent.

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IronGrrrl wrote:

Red Panda wrote:

First, do not buy a red cover, wait til you get another black cover. Secondly don't rush to level him up, it'll be harder to get Anger to trigger when he's too beefy.

This is exactly why I don't really see the use of a fifth black cover. This and the fact that it deals damage to my own team as well as the enemy's team - I just really dislike abilities like that, especially after "True Healing"...
Thanks for your other advice, though, I think I'll try using him with Daken. I've never really played Daken before, so this is going to be interesting

Hulk is best used on defense and the team damage he does really is tiny compared the chaos he can trigger with cascades. If you are using him on offense, then you want him to be a meat shield for your 2 stars since he has accelerated healing. Since there aren't many strong strike tile generators at the 2 star level you may not see how good Hulk's level 5 Anger can be but if you ever get his 5th black, watch what happens if you fight an enemy like Patch. Anger will cause huge enemy damage from the friendly purple strike tiles they gave you and usually match away the green enemy strike tiles. If Storm is there too her passive may also trigger and will get beefed up on friendly strike tiles as well for more enemy team damage.

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Considering you're using him with low hp 2* I agree with your decision not to get a 5th black in the name of sustainability for now. I think he's decent with Ares on offensive, as he tanks 2 colours, giving Ares time to strike. Hulk's powers are ridiculously weak for a 3*.

I'd save your HP and buy covers for some other more offensive 3*. Hulk + 2* aren't going to be a deterrent to 166 teams.

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Thanks for your input, everyone

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Hulk was my first maxed 3*. I had the same hesitation as you do regarding the 5th black/anger. I can say that after getting that cover, its strengths greatly outweigh the small weakness. Really, the team damage is minimal. Are there times that Hulk will down your own teammate with anger? Yes. However, it is not often, and rarely makes you lose a match you would not have lost otherwise.

On the good side, the 5th anger really goes well with some other characters. If you pair with M. Hawkeye, it's more likely to trigger speed shot. If you pair with another powerful green like Thor, it helps you build green faster. If you pair with a strike tile generator like Daken, it greatly damages the enemy team (your team's damage won't go up). If you ever play against Patch, the 5th anger is your game-winner. Just make sure Hulk takes the Berserker Rage and you win.

With Hulk's high health and fast healing, you want him to tank as many colors as possible. You could pair him with say M. Hawkeye and MMN, and Hulk would tank 4 colors. Make sure Hulk is in front when the AI has AP to fire an ability. Other than that, collect purple (for Polarity Shift) and green (for Thunderous Clap). PS will get 1-2 speed shots and TC shakes up the board to give possibilities of match 5s or at least more purple tiles to match. Most of the time in that combo you'll use Hawkeye's red at the beginning and MMN's red at the end of matches. Hulk's red is situationally useful against high-health foes that you want to down in one turn (like another Hulk or high level Captain Marvel). Save up 30 green and 14 red and it'll do 6683 damage at once, followed by 2 TCs for a total of around 10k damage. It's not hard to save up the green if he's getting angry often.

GrimSkald

It's interesting that I appear to be one of the few people who use Thunderous clap on a regular basis. To me it is a power that can do a decent amount of damage and does major board shake-up. I rarely use it at 10, though, I usually get it to 14 or 16 green before I use it. Sometimes I do a double-tap at 20.

Is it the most efficient use of green? Probably not. But I don't have any of the great 3* green characters at an appreciable level, so I like it. On the flip side, I only use Smash if he's my only red user, and even then I'm careful with it.

Anyway, more to the point of your question, the Hulk was the first character I had above 100. I basically put him in my Thor/Ares/Wolverine (sometimes) rotation and paired him with OBW. I always ended PVP with him, since he is the best scarecrow. I never had 2* Daken, though - considering how well he pairs with 3* Daken I would definitely see him as a good companion for LittleDaken.

I also advise maxing out Anger. As others have said here, the team damage is really minor. Heck, the opponent damage is pretty minor too unless it's paired with strike tiles. I wouldn't buy the cover, though, hopefully it will come sooner or later.

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IronGrrrl wrote:

Red Panda wrote:

First, do not buy a red cover, wait til you get another black cover. Secondly don't rush to level him up, it'll be harder to get Anger to trigger when he's too beefy.

This is exactly why I don't really see the use of a fifth black cover. This and the fact that it deals damage to my own team as well as the enemy's team - I just really dislike abilities like that, especially after "True Healing"...

Trust me, you're really, really, really misjudging this skill.

Lemme give you an illustration of how awesome level 5 anger is. You know who's really popular? Patch. What's patch's go-to skill? Berserker Rage, which drops about a thousand points in strike tile damage for each team. Keep in mind that self-damage is not affected by strike tiles. So what happens with that 5th anger cover is, he hits your Hulk with Berserker Rage -> anger triggers. Then he does a match -> anger triggers. Then it's your turn. Anger goes off. You drop 10 green tiles on the board and deal 2000 or so damage to his entire team, plus almost certainly match several of his attack tiles (which are on green, while yours are on purple). Are they still around after anger goes off? Even better! Then you get to do the same thing again next turn when the match damage proves enough to make Hulk angry!

Another great example: failed sentry bombing. If there aren't enough world rupture tiles left after two turns, or the strike tiles aren't beefy enough, you're gonna get something like 8-10 anger tiles at the end of the turn. This translates to 50 green tiles put on the board and over a thousand damage to the entire enemy team. Keep in mind, the whole board has a total of 64 tiles on it.

The entire reason to run Hulk is his life pool, and his level 5 anger. Thunderous Clap is really overpriced for what it does and just kinda weak overall; Smash is just downright awful. Anger, though? Anger turns this character from a mass of hitpoints to bust through at your leasure into a very dangerous target that counters a lot of very power and popular characters. Especially at level 5. Level 4 is still decent, but level 5 is just amazing at deterring strike and attack tile users. It also plays well with your own guys who make strike tiles - never underestimate a hundred AOE damage if it's for free - a Punisher, Psylocke, Daken, or even your own Patch can pump that damage up real fast, plus make the cascades much nastier. Think of it this way - a pittance in team damage for far better odds of green AP and telling anyone running Patch to **** off? Awesome trade.

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Budget Player Cadet wrote:

Another great example: failed sentry bombing. If there aren't enough world rupture tiles left after two turns, or the strike tiles aren't beefy enough, you're gonna get something like 8-10 anger tiles at the end of the turn. This translates to 50 green tiles put on the board and over a thousand damage to the entire enemy team. Keep in mind, the whole board has a total of 64 tiles on it.

At this point, cut your losses and retreat. If not, the entire team goes down.

GrimSkald

Budget Player Cadet wrote:

Lemme give you an illustration of how awesome level 5 anger is. You know who's really popular? Patch. What's patch's go-to skill? Berserker Rage, which drops about a thousand points in strike tile damage for each team. Keep in mind that self-damage is not affected by strike tiles. So what happens with that 5th anger cover is, he hits your Hulk with Berserker Rage -> anger triggers. Then he does a match -> anger triggers. Then it's your turn. Anger goes off. You drop 10 green tiles on the board and deal 2000 or so damage to his entire team, plus almost certainly match several of his attack tiles (which are on green, while yours are on purple). Are they still around after anger goes off? Even better! Then you get to do the same thing again next turn when the match damage proves enough to make Hulk angry!

I discovered this screwing around in the Goddess Thor Lightning Rounds. I was fighting a team with Patch and his Berserker rage went off into my Hulk. It litterally ended the match right there - one anger tile for Berserker Rage itself, then two more for a double match. Roughly 3000 damage to the oppossing team, all at once, then a few cascades from the green matches. I was like "Holy ****, I just did the equivelent of a Sentry Bomb."

The Hulk is definitely the rock to Patch's scissors.

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His anger provide higher passive chance for M.Hawkeye speedshot

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GrimSkald wrote:

I was fighting a team with Patch and his Berserker rage went off into my Hulk. It literally ended the match right there - one anger tile for Berserker Rage itself, then two more for a double match. Roughly 3000 damage to the opposing team, all at once, then a few cascades from the green matches. I was like "Holy ****, I just did the equivalent of a Sentry Bomb."The Hulk is definitely the rock to Patch's scissors.

True that. Patch BR'ing your Level 5 anger Hulk is almost as entertaining as summoning DP's motherlode of whales. The resulting avalanche of cascades is literally devastating. It's difficult not to laugh watching it.

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Thanks again for your input, everyone. I think you got me convinced about the covers... I'll wait to the end of the month to see if I get another cover for him I can use, and if not, I'll buy a black one. I've already been pairing Hulk with Hawkeye and Daken, and it's quite nice.