Best powers in the game

Nonce Equitaur 2

We've had Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, Purple, Black, and Passive with the polls by Pylgrim.

Looks like the best are .....
Thunder Strike
Battleplan
Star Spangled Avenger
Fireball
Demolition
Peacemaker
Call the Storm
World Rupture
Surgical Strike
Rage of the Panther
Whales, Whales, Whales
Escape Plan
Dormammu’s Aid
Pheromone Rage

And the worst are .....
Mistress of the Elements (Storm)
Grant Invisibility (Invisible Woman)
Unibeam (Iron Man 40)
Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel)
Thunderclap (Ragnarok)
Mutagenic Breakthrough (Beast)
Force Bubbles (Invisible Woman)
Equalizer (Daredevil)
Armed and Dangerous (Doc Ock)
Animal Inside (Beast)
Reprieve (She-Hulk)
Force Field Crush (Invisible Woman)

Unknown

3 of the worst are IW, time for a buff guys !

Unknown

arktos1971 wrote:

3 of the worst are IW, time for a buff guys !

I am still convinced that if her level 5 green didn't end the turn, it would be a decent-borderline-solid skill.

Unknown

Riggy wrote:

arktos1971 wrote:

3 of the worst are IW, time for a buff guys !

I am still convinced that if her level 5 green didn't end the turn, it would be a decent-borderline-solid skill.

I would agree... it has the potential, but ending the turn makes it useless.

Pylgrim

Shhh Nonce, there's one day left in the last polls! Many things could change! (yeaahh sure)

Unknown

IW should just be given completely new powers, colors, and art, starting from scratch.

Poor Mohawk storm. Now used even less, competing with x-force colors

Spoit

rabscutle wrote:

Riggy wrote:

arktos1971 wrote:

3 of the worst are IW, time for a buff guys !

I am still convinced that if her level 5 green didn't end the turn, it would be a decent-borderline-solid skill.

I would agree... it has the potential, but ending the turn makes it useless.

The AP generation on it is pretty sick. IMO it'd still be good if the getting the bubbles out with blue didn't cost so much

Unknown

It's definitely not the Green that's the problem; it's the Blue.
I don't think it's fair to say just because it doesn't have votes for being the best means it's necessarily the worse. Some of those are mid-tier skills.

Unknown

I agree, among the "worst" are some pretty useful skills (like Captain Marvel's red, it is cheap and has the convenient side effect of removing those pesky protect tiles). And some are on that list just because they are too expensive (like Unibeam or Grant Invisibility).

yogi_

With minor adjustments, I am sure IW would make a great 3*. She's wasted where she is now and has been for a long time.

IamTheDanger

I agree with most of what was picked as the best/worst powers in the game except for one tiny detail. These are only 3 and 4 powers. There are quite a few 2 abilities that should be on the list. The first ones that come to mind off the top of my head are OBW's abilities and Wind Storm. Unfortunately, the polls only let you have 15 options. Of course, someone could do a poll with 1 and 2 powers and then take those results and put them together with these and do one final poll. Or something like that.

over_clocked

That said, Thunderclap is not a bad ability. It goes very well with Thor/Hulk/GSBW matchups (instead of Thor or as a team-up) for extra greenness.

Unknown

I disagree with two of the worst.

Mistress of the Elements (Storrm). You get damage, TUP feeder, and board shake up for only 9 yellow AP. If people would stop comparing it to the old 5AP cost people would not think of it as bad. The real problem is there are many better greens that Strom doesn't get used as much as she used to. If they had not cut down ai Tup's to 1, she would have been good on defense.

Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel) gets a bad two because of other reds and most people erroneously value her yellow over her red. 7 ap cost is low. She's much better than Loki for fights against bullseye, falcon, etc.

Also, surgical strike is the single best ability in the game... Not debatable. It does massive damage, board shake up, causes AIDSap loss, and gains player ap. No other ability does all that. It's this ability that made his buff a true 4* buff and worth the wait.

scottee

stephen43084 wrote:

I disagree with two of the worst.

Mistress of the Elements (Storrm). You get damage, TUP feeder, and board shake up for only 9 yellow AP. If people would stop comparing it to the old 5AP cost people would not think of it as bad. The real problem is there are many better greens that Strom doesn't get used as much as she used to. If they had not cut down ai Tup's to 1, she would have been good on defense.

Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel) gets a bad two because of other reds and most people erroneously value her yellow over her red. 7 ap cost is low. She's much better than Loki for fights against bullseye, falcon, etc.

Also, surgical strike is the single best ability in the game... Not debatable. It does massive damage, board shake up, causes AIDSap loss, and gains player ap. No other ability does all that. It's this ability that made his buff a true 4* buff and worth the wait.

Dormammu would like a word.

The fact that you'd willing take Hood into a battle with significantly less health and two other abilities that no one counts on shows how strong it is.

NorthernPolarity

Due to the structure of the polls (pick the TOP 3 abilities), these "worst" abilities aren't really worth mentioning I think, as the poll wasn't designed to give accurate information on them.

Unknown

scottee wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

I disagree with two of the worst.

Mistress of the Elements (Storrm). You get damage, TUP feeder, and board shake up for only 9 yellow AP. If people would stop comparing it to the old 5AP cost people would not think of it as bad. The real problem is there are many better greens that Strom doesn't get used as much as she used to. If they had not cut down ai Tup's to 1, she would have been good on defense.

Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel) gets a bad two because of other reds and most people erroneously value her yellow over her red. 7 ap cost is low. She's much better than Loki for fights against bullseye, falcon, etc.

Also, surgical strike is the single best ability in the game... Not debatable. It does massive damage, board shake up, causes AIDSap loss, and gains player ap. No other ability does all that. It's this ability that made his buff a true 4* buff and worth the wait.

Dormammu would like a word.

The fact that you'd willing take Hood into a battle with significantly less health and two other abilities that no one counts on shows how strong it is.

Yep a 0/5/0 Hood is better than 90% of the characters in the game

Pylgrim

stephen43084 wrote:

I disagree with two of the worst.

Mistress of the Elements (Storrm). You get damage, TUP feeder, and board shake up for only 9 yellow AP. If people would stop comparing it to the old 5AP cost people would not think of it as bad. The real problem is there are many better greens that Strom doesn't get used as much as she used to. If they had not cut down ai Tup's to 1, she would have been good on defense.

Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel) gets a bad two because of other reds and most people erroneously value her yellow over her red. 7 ap cost is low. She's much better than Loki for fights against bullseye, falcon, etc.

Also, surgical strike is the single best ability in the game... Not debatable. It does massive damage, board shake up, causes AIDSap loss, and gains player ap. No other ability does all that. It's this ability that made his buff a true 4* buff and worth the wait.

Kind of agree with Photonic Blasts. It is just that not many people have played with it, specially at maxed level. However, I strongly disagree about Storm's yellow. Sure it does a myriad of things, but it is mediocre at all of them. Damage? Almost irrelevant. Board shake? So little that it is only better in this category than HT's Fireball... which has one of the best damage ratios. T-U Production? 7 T-U AP (if you went to the trouble of giving her 5 yellow covers) is barely any better than 2 T-U matches. If you are really hurting for T-U (and how many times does that happen? You don't always have a good T-U to use or wouldn't need/want to use it) you might as well do two matches and spare yourself using one of your precious character slots in one of the weakest and squishiest characters in 3 land. It is hard not to compare it to her previous red ability now that they gave that exact ability to Magneto, and of course, it is the 6th best rated red ability in these polls.

SunCrusher

stephen43084 wrote:

I disagree with two of the worst.

Mistress of the Elements (Storrm). You get damage, TUP feeder, and board shake up for only 9 yellow AP. If people would stop comparing it to the old 5AP cost people would not think of it as bad. The real problem is there are many better greens that Strom doesn't get used as much as she used to. If they had not cut down ai Tup's to 1, she would have been good on defense.

Photonic Blasts (Captain Marvel) gets a bad two because of other reds and most people erroneously value her yellow over her red. 7 ap cost is low. She's much better than Loki for fights against bullseye, falcon, etc.

Also, surgical strike is the single best ability in the game... Not debatable. It does massive damage, board shake up, causes AIDSap loss, and gains player ap. No other ability does all that. It's this ability that made his buff a true 4* buff and worth the wait.

Coming from someone who's a huge Storm fan, my problem with that ability is not just the increased AP cost (9 is still doable, I agree), but also the fact that especially on the heels of R62 where Boosts have been re-added in as drops and BOTH the TU and Boost drop rate is really low now, Storm's TU ability is just nerfed even worse.

AP Collection + Board Shake and maxed Hailstorm (we ARE talking about 3* Mohawk Storm, right?) at this point severely outweigh her TU ability.

I know that Board Shake is always good, but it's limited and it's also limited to only TU tiles. If you have a great TU you're wanting to use, that's great, and if you can predict how the board will change in your favor after using it, the ability is good, but unlike her Lightning Storm ability, you HAVE to want those TU tiles and you HAVE to have the tiles to fall favorably in your direction for it to truly be useful. For Lightning Storm, the random AP collection is useful (almost all the time) regardless of how the board shaking turns out.

But that's just my 2 cents. The Board Shake is always a good thing; I just think her Lightning Storm has more going for it.

Lystrata

Nice summary, but shouldn't this have been left for Pylgrim to do, after his polls finished?

Unknown

Mistress of the Elements is still overpriced at 9AP. The board shake up is way more limited, and far less likely to lead to cascades. It's very hard to get the timing of using it right to generate cascades compared to the old one. The only plus side is it's on yellow, so it only conflicts with Ares and Thor in the 2* range, IM35 in the 1*

Why do they keep coming up with fake healing abilities like Medical Marvel anyways? There's got to be some sort of subset of players who like using these abilities in long battles, who only play a few battles at a time.

Unknown

I disagree with the worst list. Just because no one voted them among the best abilities doesn't automatically make them the worst. They may be solidly average. Do more polls asking for worst powers!