How does your PvP team work?

Dragon_Nexus

Kinda vague title, couldn't think of a way to word it.

So...I do some PvP, I leave in a nice place but I want to do some PvE. Does choosing a team for that alter who's left defending my PvP points?
Example, I use Doc Oc, Patch and Cappy Murica. I stop playing and move to PvE, Cappy gets taken out so I swap out for Hood and Punisher, perhaps. Does that mean my PvP team suddenly changes to Patch, Hood and Punisher? Or does it remain as the last team I actually used?

Always been puzzled on this one.

Unknown

Your opponent sees whatever team you last played when they queue you up, but since the game queues an opponent way ahead of time this makes timing tricky. For example let's say you have (weak team) and (strong team), and you're playing on your (weak team) while another guy opened his game which has the seed team queued, and then later he restarted the game which queues a new set of opponents after the first 3 seed teams, and unknown to you or him the game already queued your (weak team) up. If that guy then plays a day later he'd see his first 3 seed team followed by your (weak team) regardless of what team you're currently using because the game already queued your team up from a day ago.

An opponent doing retaliation always sees the team you beat them with regardless of what happened after that.

Dragon_Nexus

Phantron wrote:

Your opponent sees whatever team you last played when they queue you up

Is that regardless of where I played the team?
So I could do a prologue with three 1 characters and that would end up being my PvP team?

Also you've reminded me of something. Is it possible to retalliate on the Steam edition of the game? Never saw an option for it.

Unknown

Noper.

That only applies for the event you play in.

Your pvp team is separate from your sim team, etc.

The last team you played in an event is what others see in that event only. If you defeat a team, they see the team you beat theirs with.

It's pretty straight forward, tbh. Although I'm sure it's not above being broken. Ha.

Dragon_Nexus

Oh good, I was never sure if I was inadvertently crippling myself leaping into PvE after some PvP, using NMag and CStorm with Patch and having that overwrite my PvP team.

So how about the retalliation thingy? Is that a feature in the Steam game or only the mobile ap?

Unknown

Retaliation is basically what it says it is.

If someone beats your team, you are given a chance to beat theirs in retaliation. The same goes the other way around.

If the team you use to beat someone is different from the last team you use, they still see the team you beat them with.

Unknown

Retaliation is just when someone beat you, you're given the option to fight back. Sometimes the retaliation gets wiped for some unknown reason (restarting the game will have a high chance of donig so, but I've seen it wiped without doing that). For the most part retaliations aren't any different from a normal game but there's no ambiguity in the team seen in a retaliation. It is always the team that defeated you. While your PvP defense team is just the team you last used when an opponent queued you up, what trips people up is that the game queues extra opponents way ahead of time so it's not always what you expect.

Dragon_Nexus

I'm guessing retalliation isn't something that features in the steam version, since I've never seen the option anywhere when I've been attacked.

BTW...do you guys actually read my posts? Both of you explained what retalliation is (I could guess by the name) but neither actually answered whether the Steam version has the feature.

FierceKiwi

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

I'm guessing retalliation isn't something that features in the steam version, since I've never seen the option anywhere when I've been attacked.

BTW...do you guys actually read my posts? Both of you explained what retalliation is (I could guess by the name) but neither actually answered whether the Steam version has the feature.

Have you ever seen a node that was Red in PvP? That was a retaliation.

Unknown

I have a steam account my kiddo plays on. Yes, retaliation is there as well.

GrumpySmurf1002

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

I'm guessing retalliation isn't something that features in the steam version, since I've never seen the option anywhere when I've been attacked.

BTW...do you guys actually read my posts? Both of you explained what retalliation is (I could guess by the name) but neither actually answered whether the Steam version has the feature.

Yes, Steam has that feature.

Dragon_Nexus

Huh...so...how do you retalliate then?

Unknown

The node turns red when there is a retaliation in it.

Just select it and fight them back, or skip and move on with the normal matches the game makes for you.

Unknown

To most people there's no differenec between a retaliation and someone else the game happened to queue up. It's only of concern when you need to think about defense teams (the retaliation match's defense team is always 100% known to the attacker) or trying to find opponents that are already shielded (a retaliation is very slightly more likely to be on someone who is shielded).

Dragon_Nexus

Jameson2014 wrote:

The node turns red when there is a retaliation in it.

....So THAT'S what that meant! Jeez, all this time I wondered. I used to think it meant challenge level, but it clearly didn't when I saw someone pretty easy as a red node, then a much harder fight as yellow.

When people talked about retalliation, I figured you'd see a link to click in the "You got attacked" message to fight them back immediately or something.

Unknown

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

Jameson2014 wrote:

The node turns red when there is a retaliation in it.

....So THAT'S what that meant! Jeez, all this time I wondered. I used to think it meant challenge level, but it clearly didn't when I saw someone pretty easy as a red node, then a much harder fight as yellow.

When people talked about retalliation, I figured you'd see a link to click in the "You got attacked" message to fight them back immediately or something.

If you look at the title it'd say "Retaliate soandso" instead of the usual 'soandso'. All else being equal, retaliations are better than an equivalent unknown character because shields cannot hide you from retaliations and attacking a shielded opponent is always the best to attack even if it's worth very little points, because the shielded guy cannot ever fight back.