Well, this is problematic...

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It seems I've finally reached the point where more than half the Gold covers I draw from tokens are ones I don't need. A sad, sad moment each time this happens

And I have yet to draw or drop a single tinny Daken blue!

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I know the feeling except mine is a different sorta curse. Everytime I click recruit and see that gold token, I get all excited, but without fail out pops a Daredevil to ruin my day. Currently have 6 covers for him from this, no red

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kalirion wrote:

It seems I've finally reached the point where more than half the Gold covers I draw from tokens are ones I don't need. A sad, sad moment each time this happens

And I have yet to draw or drop a single tinny Daken blue!

Out of the sixty possible 3* covers in tokens right now, I need two, and one of those is to respec Magneto (the other is Yellow Lazy Storm). This is why I keep harping on the token pool. And why I have well over 500 tokens saved up.

Lacydog69

And sadly it will just get worse and worse as more and more heroes are added....

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Lacydog69 wrote:

And sadly it will just get worse and worse as more and more heroes are added....

Not really, every new hero will add 3 different covers that you don't have yet

Sure, it will make it that much harder to get that final cover for your 3* who really needs it. So far, I've actually spent HP on 2 covers - Patch Yellow and Hood Blue. But each time I've quickly had to sell 1*s or do major grinds for HP to be able to recruit the next new 3*.

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Get top 5 in the coming PVP and you'll get a blue daken cover

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Lacydog69 wrote:

And sadly it will just get worse and worse as more and more heroes are added....

Not if none of the new characters are added to the token pool

D3 has a plan after all....

/sarcasm

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onimus wrote:

Get top 5 in the coming PVP and you'll get a blue daken cover

He meant Daken (Dark Avengers) blue. That is the 2* cover. So he would need to painstakingly try to maintain a rank of 101-300 for that. I need all those covers too, i just wish each rank grouping would be cumulative. For example, if you got rank 101, you would get 2x2*Daken covers. If you got rank 75, you would get the LDaken cover and 2x2*Daken covers. it would be nice...that's all i'm sayin.

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I have the exact opposite problem. I actually cringe when I see the gold symbol pop up because, in all honesty, I'd rather have a two-star cover because it would have a much greater opportunity of being of use to me. There's approximately one 3-star that would be of any use to me. Otherwise it's just another roster slot that I can't afford...

-blackfire83

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Whether or not it gets better depends on your viewpoint.

In terms of obtaining a cover you actually need, that goes down the longer you play. Today I will hit day 207 when the daily rewards come in. I've been stockpiling my tokens for a while now since there is nothing in them of much use to me anymore. 4x 10 + 66 regular Heroics, 130 standards.

My roster

Cover maxed and at 166:

needs 1 to be covered correctly, but he's still darn good as is.

Cover maxed
(needs 1 to respec) (5/5/2)

Not fully covered yet
5/3/3
3/3/3
3/3/2
5/3/2

Even my are looking decently covered.
is finished.
is at 3/5/4, needs 2
is 3/4/3, needs 1 and 2

So at this point, the bulk of the I need are not even available from tokens. I cover maxed purely from rewards, and have sold a couple extras since it's been that long that she's been out. is close to that, only off by 1 . Even is close, only needing 3 more covers.

So the downside is that yes, eventually opening tokens isn't really worth it until they add new characters. The upside is...you've got a really nice roster and maybe don't need to grind so much for PVP or PVE rewards when the covers aren't that interesting.

HailMary

Yeah, I only recently switched to hoarding tokens, and the realization that you've gotten to the point where that's the smarter move is a bit sad.

But, then you get to open a bajillion tokens when the characters you need get added to the token pool! It's like, instead of eating a cupcake everyday, not eating sweets for a month and then consuming an entire 24" chocolate lava cake in one sitting, with the added benefit that you don't start vomiting after opening 100 tokens.

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HailMary wrote:

Yeah, I only recently switched to hoarding tokens, and the realization that you've gotten to the point where that's the smarter move is a bit sad.

But, then you get to open a bajillion tokens when the characters you need get added to the token pool! It's like, instead of eating a cupcake everyday, not eating sweets for a month and then consuming an entire 24" chocolate lava cake in one sitting, with the added benefit that you don't start vomiting after opening 100 tokens.

Yup. I am dreading opening them whenever I do. It's going to take a full weekend, especially since - given there's been exactly zero communication on this issue in ages - I doubt it's getting solved anytime soon.

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HailMary wrote:

with the added benefit that you don't start vomiting after opening 100 tokens.

Depends on what you draw, I think.

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I don't know why people don't like DD. I have him at 4/1/4 and level 117 iirc. I don't use him a lot but he is really fun to use. Not as effective or competitive as Sentry and/or Lazy Daken but I like the surprise of enemy getting kicked into oblivion with his crotch showing kick, or getting stunned with that nunchuck thing or losing massive amounts of AP. I use him time to time in LRs or PvEs.

Also, desperately fishing for those blue DA Daken covers too. Got none so far. I think they were given in a recent PvP but I couldn't rank low enough to get it. Instead I got a blue IM40 cover. Yay?

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KevinMark wrote:

I don't know why people don't like DD. I have him at 4/1/4 and level 117 iirc. I don't use him a lot but he is really fun to use. Not as effective or competitive as Sentry and/or Lazy Daken but I like the surprise of enemy getting kicked into oblivion with his crotch showing kick, or getting stunned with that nunchuck thing or losing massive amounts of AP. I use him time to time in LRs or PvEs.

People may like quite a lot. But generally speaking those people are not going to be the type to frequent this forum.

Not that everyone on here is an uber effecient min/maxing power gamer, but the general type of person that is on a forum such as this, for what is essentially a casual game, is going to skew more toward that psychographic. They want skills that are certain, fixed, definable. Ambush is certainly powerful...if it fires, same with his other two. But it's essentially a coin toss mechanic. You give up the guarantee of the skill hitting at all for some increased damage/stun/steal for that amount of AP expended when compared with more consistent skills. That might be a fun mechanic for some people, but it is not predictable. If I could place DD's traps myself, or just fire off the skills on demand for maybe 3/4s of their power, he'd be a much better character. As is, he's cover maxed and going to be a permanent level 40 unless his skill set gets reworked.

Professa D

Ya, it's been that way for me also for quite a while. Day 240ish

Lvl 166s: (patch)

Cover Maxed w/optimal build: (XF)

Cover Maxed needing respec: (need 1 ), ("need" 1 ) (5/5/3 now, need 2 's as she's currently built but who knows after her buff?)

Missing Multiple Covers: (need 4 's) (just / )

So that means that there are 65ish 3*/4* covers I don't need versus only 18 that I do need. So everytime I see a gold token there is only a 20% chance I will actually be keeping it. It doesn't mean that I will actually be able to USE it though since most of the missing ones are for weaker characters who will rarely be used (barring any major buffs).

I really only "NEED" and from the 3* pool so it's more like 2 's that I need versus 77ish that I don't need. Sooooooo with about a 14% chance of pulling a from a heroic token and only a ~2.5% chance of obtaining a cover I really need, I'm looking at a ~0.35% chance that I will actually be happy after opening a heroic token. Obv the stats are MUCH worse for standard tokens. (I think I did that math right but may be a bit off hence the "ishes" and ~'s )

So I hoard my tokens like many other vets until there is a compelling reason to open them...like when they created Balance of Power and I needed to plow through 50 standard tokens to get a 5/5 Juggs onto my roster

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KevinMark wrote:

I don't know why people don't like DD. I have him at 4/1/4 and level 117 iirc. I don't use him a lot but he is really fun to use. Not as effective or competitive as Sentry and/or Lazy Daken but I like the surprise of enemy getting kicked into oblivion with his crotch showing kick, or getting stunned with that nunchuck thing or losing massive amounts of AP. I use him time to time in LRs or PvEs.

Also, desperately fishing for those blue DA Daken covers too. Got none so far. I think they were given in a recent PvP but I couldn't rank low enough to get it. Instead I got a blue IM40 cover. Yay?

Crotch-kicking is fun(ny) and all, but it's just so much ISO to level him up to where he can be useful. I have him around Level 89 or so, with 3or4 Red covers and it only does about 2,300 damage. I'd rather put my ISO into Lazy Thor, XForce or.... almost anyone. I don't even know what his purple ability does anymore since the env. tiles were changed to TU tiles.

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MikeHock wrote:

KevinMark wrote:

I don't know why people don't like DD. I have him at 4/1/4 and level 117 iirc. I don't use him a lot but he is really fun to use. Not as effective or competitive as Sentry and/or Lazy Daken but I like the surprise of enemy getting kicked into oblivion with his crotch showing kick, or getting stunned with that nunchuck thing or losing massive amounts of AP. I use him time to time in LRs or PvEs.

Also, desperately fishing for those blue DA Daken covers too. Got none so far. I think they were given in a recent PvP but I couldn't rank low enough to get it. Instead I got a blue IM40 cover. Yay?

Crotch-kicking is fun(ny) and all, but it's just so much ISO to level him up to where he can be useful. I have him around Level 89 or so, with 3or4 Red covers and it only does about 2,300 damage. I'd rather put my ISO into Lazy Thor, XForce or.... almost anyone. I don't even know what his purple ability does anymore since the env. tiles were changed to TU tiles.

I have him covermaxed with 5red/Purple at level 135, and he is fun to use true. Unfortunately he lacks health, and gets taken out easily. And since you can't manually place his red, the only thing you can do to ensure the AI takes it is to set up a 4 match with MNMags (too squishy for 4* play) or GSBW (11 Purple needed!)

His Purple also takes 11 AP, and that's up to 4 matches in order to make an attack that many never actually trigger, or may trigger too late! Since the TU update, the purple just sets up on a random tile, which I guess is useful on Defense if the attacker lets him live long enough to do that since they will have no clue which tiles to avoid.

Phumade

hahaha

1st world problems.


My alliance just started a second casual alliance for guys who want to step back. I was browsing through their rosters thinking to myself.

I'm damn lucky to have 12 3* over lvl100!!!!!

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It surprised me when I hit this spot, but by that time i was winning my covers from the various events. so now I am hording the Heroic Tokens (why is there not smilies for Heroic and Standard tokens) and 10 packs. it took me pulling all 2 's in one of the 10 pack pulls.