Question for the Top-Tiered PVP Alliances

Unknown

So I was just wondering what is your expenditure monthly/weekly for MPQ??
Obviously this will vary from person to person depending on disposable income and addiction levels,
But like a rough ballpark figure that comes with being one of those elite teams

Unknown

I am in CareBareStare. Top 50 alliance and often top 25. I don't know how much the whole alliance spends. I am in transition from 2* to 3* and honestly all I have spent is $9 once because my credit card was expiring and I would not renew my account. So I had to spend w/e was in it. Other than that I have never spent a dime in the game.

Of course, I am at day ~152 and I have 6 maxed 2* and several 3* with ~5 covers each (Most of them earned the past 10 days that I joined this alliance). The game offers you a decent F2P experience. However, you need a good piece of luck too. You can play this game since start and not be able to max one 3*. Money helps, but it does not make the game more enjoyable tbh. I find it plenty enjoyable to get my lucky drops and covers from events.

PS: If I pay money, I would only give it for roster slots.

over_clocked

I started out as a F2P but quite early - LRs used to give out guaranteed 3*s, etc. Transition was easier back then.
But if you are asking about top-tier alliances, you probably have transitioned or are close already and are curious as to how to put up big scores and not spend hundreds. If you can already provide for all the roster slots for new characters and don't have to get rid of lesser covers, you only got to spend on shields since everything else doesn't give you much value for money spent. And shields are very inexpensive compared to everything else; one single Loonies can last you a very long time and possibly allow to not ever spend anymore if you join a good top 50-100 alliance, get all HP progressions in every Versus tournament, don't forget to play Story events that award HP, too, and skip extensive shielding when offered covers are of no interest.

What kind of scores would you like to achieve? 1100 for the featured cover, 1300 for the 4* covers?
If you are lucky with your timing and have strong 3* characters, you can run to 1000-1100 without a shield easily enough. 1300 requires at least several shields. Usually 3-4 at least.

And as for an actual answer, I bought Logan's Loonies recently just as a way to thank the devs, since I won't need extra HP for quite some time; ISO becomes the bottleneck once you get a core 3* roster and start working on other 3*s and 4*s. I won't be buying HP for quite a while now unless there's a change I like a lot.

Ryz-aus

I'd say it depends a lot. Like locked said, you can hit 1100 with one or two shields pretty easily if you have an established 3* roster and can play in the last 6-8 hours. Getting to 1300 is usually a 4 shield proposition, so if you are playing late and in a strong alliance it costs you 0 hp net for an event. Sometimes you can make it in 2 or 3, but if you can't coordinate shield hops assume 4. Scoring in the 1500+ range is going to cost money, especially if you aren't in a top 2 alliance (they get extra hp for their alliance reward). So it's really only the top 5 or so alliances that have more than a few regular spenders for placing - I would guess $5 for the pvp's they want to hit that kind of score (again, less for the top 2 alliances because they get significantly more hp in their rewards).

Getting that established roster was easier for those of us who played longer - I am free to play but have spent a lot of time.

h4n1s

Well the top 10 ranks in PVPs generally are occupied by alliances somewhere 14k - 30k points. Simple mathematics tells you that to have a shot on top ten when each of your members should score at least 700 points.

I have few maxed 2* chars and my strongest 3* character is Hulk currently on level 140. But I manage to end up in every PVP with at least 600 points, and I play VERY casually (not more than 2 hours a day, generally less), and I shield usually just for last 8 hours of the tourney as the end times for me are either early in the morning or at the time I am at work (and that shield is usually paid by progression awards and final placement + alliance placement). I don't need to invest single penny do reach that level.

So simply every alliance has a shot on top 10 - 25 if every member scored consistently 650-700 points each PVP, without need to P2W.

atomzed

I am from 5deadlybanes.

If you are asking about weekly expenditure, it depends on the rewards given. If it's 3 covers I need, I am willing to spend 5 to 8 shields. Mainly 1 8hr shield and the rest 3 hr shield. If I don't need the covers, then I will be usually spending only on 1 shield.

I typically don't buy +all boosts nor the health packs.

How much does that translate to? I don't know, but usually I can earn hp for each event and save for rainy day. After my initial "investment", I have not been spending any money for the past 4 months.

Unknown

Also CareBearStare; we're usually top 50, frequently top 25. Spent about $20-25 early (November-December last year) for roster slots, another $5 around March, nothing since then. Sitting on almost 10k HP, so I can't imagine needing to spend any time soon.

Unknown

We aren't a top tiered alliance (I'm assuming you're more interested in Xmen, 5DV and immortal rage members), but sweet venom is currently ranked #29. We are an alliance that is still growing and went from a top 100 alliance last season to a top 30 so far this season.

The vast majority of us, to my knowledge, spend next to nothing. We are an alliance that has 4 to 5 big point collectors and everyone else in the 500-800 range.

I personally spend, on average over the past 5 seasons, 10 to 20 dollars a season. It depends on if I have a character that I really want to buy covers for. I haven't bought a cover in a while though. I spent 20 dollars at the beginning of season 4 and haven't needed to do anything since.

I'm sitting at 3000 HP and I sustain my shielding through prizes/rewards at this point. 100 for top 50 alliance, 100 for top 10 finish and 100 for getting to 800 points each PVP. This gives me enough HP to shield for last 16 hours of each PVP.

Add in the prizes from PVEs and I am sitting pretty comfortably without spending any money.

There will be occasions that I shield hop if I got to 1200 without shielding and I want to get that final 100 points etc.

But overall, once you build a solid team of two 3 star characters, you don't need to spend too much on this game.

atomzed

onimus wrote:

But overall, once you build a solid team of two 3 star characters, you don't need to spend too much on this game.

QFT.

The first 2 solid 3* is the huge wall, but once you cross it, life gets much easier.

Phaserhawk

how much $? well it really does depend. For those that have played longer it is much much less since you can pick and choose. If you are talking about those that are scoring 1800-2000 I have no idea how much they are spending as there is no way you can shield that much without coming out negative in HP. In this recent Hulk I shielded 3 times. 1 3hr and 2 8 hr. This cost me 375 HP, I already got 100 getting to 1312 so I'm in the hole 275, but between my top 5 placment and my alliance I'll get another 200, so it would have cost me 75 HP. If we somehow made top 2 alliance then I would be up 75 HP ahead. You now factor in the HP from PvE, Shield, daily rewards and you can run for a long time only spending 75HP every PvP. Not to mention I just got a 2500 HP cover for 75HP I would say with good coordination on shield hopping I could play 4-5 months on a Logan Loonie purchase probably longer. I"m more than happy to give D3 $20 every 4-5 months. However as I"m closing in on max roster I'll probably be spending less.

NorthernPolarity

Nick-Thor wrote:

So I was just wondering what is your expenditure monthly/weekly for MPQ??
Obviously this will vary from person to person depending on disposable income and addiction levels,
But like a rough ballpark figure that comes with being one of those elite teams

Im sitting at 20k hp and havent spent anything outside of 10 bucks for roster slots during the early part of my career. The key is to really just be greedy with shields. Once you have an intimidating roster such that all of the featured chars in tournaments are level 100+, you can get away with far less shields than usual. My shield expenditure is typically the following.
If dont care about rewards, 0hp. Push to 600 (any more and ppl start attacking you) a day before the end, Push to 800 at the end of the tournament and stay unshielded for top 25.

If i care about rewards, 75hp. push to 600 then push to 1150 and use a single 3 hour.

If i want the 1300 cover, 150hp: push to 1150, then push to 1300 near the end.

This typically nets me 225-300hp per tourney, so theres no need at all to spend anymore on hp.

Unknown

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Nick-Thor wrote:

So I was just wondering what is your expenditure monthly/weekly for MPQ??
Obviously this will vary from person to person depending on disposable income and addiction levels,
But like a rough ballpark figure that comes with being one of those elite teams

Im sitting at 20k hp and havent spent anything outside of 10 bucks for roster slots during the early part of my career. The key is to really just be greedy with shields. Once you have an intimidating roster such that all of the featured chars in tournaments are level 100+, you can get away with far less shields than usual. My shield expenditure is typically the following.
If dont care about rewards, 0hp. Push to 600 (any more and ppl start attacking you) a day before the end, Push to 800 at the end of the tournament and stay unshielded for top 25.

If i care about rewards, 75hp. push to 600 then push to 1150 and use a single 3 hour.

If i want the 1300 cover, 150hp: push to 1150, then push to 1300 near the end.

This typically nets me 225-300hp per tourney, so theres no need at all to spend anymore on hp.

Heh.
This past PVP I had a level 249 hulk, 166 Daken and 166 patch as my team.

Still got lit up all the time.

Any team can beat any team in this game. There is no safety behind maxed characters.

NorthernPolarity

onimus wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Nick-Thor wrote:

So I was just wondering what is your expenditure monthly/weekly for MPQ??
Obviously this will vary from person to person depending on disposable income and addiction levels,
But like a rough ballpark figure that comes with being one of those elite teams

Im sitting at 20k hp and havent spent anything outside of 10 bucks for roster slots during the early part of my career. The key is to really just be greedy with shields. Once you have an intimidating roster such that all of the featured chars in tournaments are level 100+, you can get away with far less shields than usual. My shield expenditure is typically the following.
If dont care about rewards, 0hp. Push to 600 (any more and ppl start attacking you) a day before the end, Push to 800 at the end of the tournament and stay unshielded for top 25.

If i care about rewards, 75hp. push to 600 then push to 1150 and use a single 3 hour.

If i want the 1300 cover, 150hp: push to 1150, then push to 1300 near the end.

This typically nets me 225-300hp per tourney, so theres no need at all to spend anymore on hp.

Heh.
This past PVP I had a level 249 hulk, 166 Daken and 166 patch as my team.

Still got lit up all the time.

Any team can beat any team in this game. There is no safety behind maxed characters.

There is below certain point thresholds to a certain extent, and you have the top tier defensive characters (xforce, sentry, hood). You probably got attacked because patch daken is trivial to beat on offense: its painting a huge target on your head since its so easy to beat compared to something like sentry hood. This hulk pvp i was able to stay at 800 off of max hulk, xforce, and cmags for 3 hours without any attacks. I then pushed to 1200 before bed, and went up to 1300 this morning for fury. Starting late probably has a lot to do with it since there are a lot less targets early on, meaning youre more likely to get attacked.

Phaserhawk

NorthernPolarity wrote:

onimus wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Nick-Thor wrote:

So I was just wondering what is your expenditure monthly/weekly for MPQ??
Obviously this will vary from person to person depending on disposable income and addiction levels,
But like a rough ballpark figure that comes with being one of those elite teams

Im sitting at 20k hp and havent spent anything outside of 10 bucks for roster slots during the early part of my career. The key is to really just be greedy with shields. Once you have an intimidating roster such that all of the featured chars in tournaments are level 100+, you can get away with far less shields than usual. My shield expenditure is typically the following.
If dont care about rewards, 0hp. Push to 600 (any more and ppl start attacking you) a day before the end, Push to 800 at the end of the tournament and stay unshielded for top 25.

If i care about rewards, 75hp. push to 600 then push to 1150 and use a single 3 hour.

If i want the 1300 cover, 150hp: push to 1150, then push to 1300 near the end.

This typically nets me 225-300hp per tourney, so theres no need at all to spend anymore on hp.

Heh.
This past PVP I had a level 249 hulk, 166 Daken and 166 patch as my team.

Still got lit up all the time.

Any team can beat any team in this game. There is no safety behind maxed characters.

There is below certain point thresholds to a certain extent, and you have the top tier defensive characters (xforce, sentry, hood). You probably got attacked because patch daken is trivial to beat on offense: its painting a huge target on your head since its so easy to beat compared to something like sentry hood. This hulk pvp i was able to stay at 800 off of max hulk, xforce, and cmags for 3 hours without any attacks. I then pushed to 1200 before bed, and went up to 1300 this morning for fury. Starting late probably has a lot to do with it since there are a lot less targets early on, meaning youre more likely to get attacked.

Agreed NP, I started later than normal in Hulk Tourney, it's slower going until you reach 900, but if you stay with the majority and not the elite, maxed characters do keep you from getting attacked, so yeah you can safely push to 800 or so and never spend any HP on shields, that 900 level though is where things get rough and you'll have to spend, that's why I've been trying more to go slower, get as close to 900 then when I'm all healed and max health packs, make a strong push which you can usually hit like you said 1100 or so, shield, make another 1 or 2 pushes to 1300 and then lockin.

MarvelMan

Background: Im on day 33, was in scAvengers from the first day of alliances so was there when we rocked the top spot in PVE plus top 5s in PVP and am now in Ace of Blades. Im generally around 900 in PVP, been as high as 1500.

I have spent $0 so far. Been tempted a couple times when I received iTunes gift cards but never quite pulled the trigger, in part because Im sitting on 10k HP. I really should do it and consider it a donation. So its definitely possible to be F2P and be in a top alliance and going for top 5 in PVP.

FaerieMyst

My husband (Mystwalker) and I are in ScarFighters. We are usually Top 50. We are top scorers in our alliance for PVP. We budget $20 each per week for gold.

Here's the rest of the picture - this is pretty much our entertainment budget. We rarely go out to eat. We rarely go to the movies. It's also our therapy budget. We live intense professional lives and could easily be workaholics. MPQ is our stress relief. Plus we do it together. Most of the time we are in the same bracket for PVP. We start the season and SHIELD together. We enjoy the mild competition and cheer each other on.

My biggest question for the day is if I go in and play one more PVP match and take second place from him or settle for third. He's asleep. We both have our Nick Fury covers. Yes, that is the sort of pressing problem I face in my marriage. It's just awful.

Unknown

I think the guys saying it doesn't take much to get to a high number in PvP without spending HP are completely glossing over the aspect. It reminds me of people saying something only takes a day to do in MMORPG but a day means 'playing 24 hours continosuly' in MMORPG hardcore speak. Even if you never lost a game sometimes you just never get anywhere even past 600 because there's this mysterious guy with 200 points that has an identical strength max roster as you that's constnatly knocking you down. Of course you can also lose games if you're not boosting (which you probably should with iso8 boosts) and even with boosts there are a lot of Sentry and X Force out there who always have a chance of winning.

There's no such thing as HP on the house because you get it all by the time you hit 800 and you don't give that HP back if you later fall below it. You get 50 HP for placement (difference between top 50 and 1) which is less than the cost of the smallest shield. Alliance mechanics changes things but they might just make you quit instead so I don't think you can put a value on that either.

Unknown

Guys just wanted to say thanks for all the great advice. I'm currently in the 2->3* phase and was curious as to the supposed P2W aspect of hitting PVP's upper echelons. But seems to me that with a built up roster, enough new character slots available and selective shielding for desired events my F2P lifestyle continue. Thanks again all

Unknown

This game in the end isn't really pay to win when the real goal is collecting all your covers and maxing your guys out. Paying in the end is just a short cut to this and ultimately robs you of a purpose to play. Better way to look at it is youre supporting the developer to keep the game evolving and growing.

If you're looking for a giant score in a pvp it's really just a game of how many shields are you willing to throw at the wall because it doesn't take a maxed roster to get 2k points as a few people have shown. All it requires is spending an insane amount of hp and iso and it's certainly not fun for most people.

You're better off playing in the realm of what you consider fun. This past gauntlet was a great place for this in that you could go at your own pace and spend next to nothing for a fun little challenge.