Why MPQ needs a new one star

themoneymaker

I can't help but feel sorry for the noob rosters I come across during events that since the triple nerf of m storm don't pose any sort of a threat to my two star/three star duo. I see the same thing everytime, IM35 with either jugg, hawkeye or the now awful modern storm.So devs your doing a great job but as someone who's past that stage I'm asking you to help the newcomers by diversifying their rosters by introducing a new 1 star that's as good as the old storm, without the unfair cascading. it could be introduced as a replacement of the two star character in the next pve/pvp and don't make them featured in a pvp but maybe a pve that way vets aren't forced to recruit them and noobs can get something new to play with that can ease them into two star range. I'd also like to see a new one star cos its never been done before and I feel like new players can be overwhelmed by all the three stars the game has on offer. let me know whether you guys think this is a good or bad idea thanks.

yogi_

Interesting idea, but I can't imagine devs would want to spend any time on such a thing. Some thoughts:

* For new players, Modern Storm is exactly the character she is and plays in her own way. For players who have moved on from the 1*s, it is a nerf but not for those new to the game who experience her with her new yellow, ie. a red environmental tile destruction ability simply doesn't exist and therefore cannot be compared. Same for any player who gets a character for the first time following a change in their abilities.
* The 1*s aren't supposed to be much of a threat to anyone higher than them, that's why they are introductory characters - the fact that Modern Storm always used to shoot about her class was an aberation. She still somewhat might be but not like before.
* Any new character would soon get left behind (for the most part) like the rest of the 1*s.
* The current 1*s are closely tied into the Dark Reign story missions, so to some extent another addition wouldn't really fit in anywhere.
* Newer players have the advantage of being able to much more quickly gain 2*s covers now that they are given out so freely and therefore are more likely to transition out of the 1* range faster. It was not like this until a few months ago when getting 2*s covers actually took effort.

To be honest, there could be a case made to move a character or two out of the 1*s or better still combine the 1* and 2* characters into the one ranking. [Insert my ususal plug for a complete overhaul of all characters, possibly to the same level here].

(Also, I found it hard to read your comment without full stops.)

themoneymaker

Sorry fixed up the grammar a bit, you raised some great points and made me realise I was thinking as if storm had been nerfed when I was a noob and two stars were harder to get, your point about the dark reign storyline I found interesting but considering its not a part of the game anymore would the character have to fit and if so I'm sure they could work a minor character in from that storyline. Idk if it's the same anymore, but when I was new to the game I found I was playing the same style every time and I think diversification can only be a good thing and it will let new comers find out how they like to play and then they can work out a two star roster based around their one star experience. Idk if that makes sense or not but what I'm trying to say is I think a case could be made for further 1 star diversity

yogi_

themoneymaker wrote:

Sorry fixed up the grammar a bit, you raised some great points and made me realise I was thinking as if storm had been nerfed when I was a noob and two stars were harder to get, your point about the dark reign storyline I found interesting but considering its not a part of the game anymore would the character have to fit and if so I'm sure they could work a minor character in from that storyline. Idk if it's the same anymore, but when I was new to the game I found I was playing the same style every time and I think diversification can only be a good thing and it will let new comers find out how they like to play and then they can work out a two star roster based around their one star experience. Idk if that makes sense or not but what I'm trying to say is I think a case could be made for further 1 star diversity

The only thing currently different in regards to the Dark Regin element is the removal of the name from the main game. Every gameplay feature, character, mission, etc is still identical. Things will diversify but it will take time and they do have things lined up. But sure yeah, stories and characters can be amended anyway they would like.

MarcusGraves

there would be more 1 star diversity if they buffed hawkeye, venom and yelena to not be big smelly turds encouraging people to actually use them.

-venom needs a rework because his instant kill gimmick on black is too much work to pull off and it costs 2 more AP for a vanilla damage power than IM 35's red and his purple is kinda meh.

-hawkeye: weird kinda set up but red is really overshadowed by jug and IM's red powers when looking for a red for your team, the purple is passable. he probably just needs a 3rd power to really bring the character together.

-yelena: powers need to be little cheaper, purple is a ridiculous 19 AP at max rank making is practically unusable and black would actually be a very very useful ability if it was lowered to somewhere around 10-12 AP.

the pool of 1 stars is big enough, the problem is that only 4 of the 7 one star choices are actually functional.

themoneymaker

Hawkeye is the only one star I still use from time to time against minions, a damage buff for his red would be amazing. For yelena to be viable she would need an ap decrease on her pink And a third skill perhaps a yellow to deal a certain amount of damage based on how much ap the opponent has or something like that. however I have a feeling yelena will keep her position as the worst character for some time to come and perhaps forever. Given that the devs still need to fix a lot of characters (IW, Captain marvel, Loki, Bullseye etc.) and that they seem to like adding more characters quicker than fixing them I think an addition would be more likely if anything were to change for the 1 star army.

BearVenger

I don't pick up my one-stars, unless they're buffed for an event, but I'd be thrilled if there were 1-2 more available.

Okay, tangent: When any of us whose screenname is NOT IceIX has a theory, but doesn't have a direct quote from the developers that says "X was designed to..." or "X is supposed to be...", he's entirely guessing. I have my opinions on why things are the way they are, but that's just me.

Here's what I've noticed from the one-stars: Their abilities are costly relative to the higher-starred buddies. Playing one-stars for a long time taught me to focus on gem-matching, with abilities not yet being the core of my gameplay.

I like Yelena's abilities enough, and think if hers were cheaper, she'd have a puncher's chance against special-tile users. Classic Hawkeye has cheaper moves that are best used with a good board analysis, but they can also bail you out in a pinch.

There are no one-stars with strike or attack tiles, and none with healing. That would be a good start.

Unknown

God no to a 1* healer. Just.. no..

A 1 star strike tile user (maybe Wolverine?) would be a good addition. And he'd be GRY like so many of the attackers to get players use to that setup.

IM40's abilities are all more expensive than IM35. Just sayin'.

Kolence

BearVenger wrote:

There are no one-stars with strike or attack tiles, and none with healing. That would be a good start.

Forgetting modern Storm already? I know she's been nerfed but still...

BearVenger

Got me. I have her at 3 black.

themoneymaker

Maybe a human hulk that has an aoe attack like making a gamma bomb and also can turn into the hulk for like 10 green ap and do a set amount of damage based on the hulk in your roster. that way it introduces new mechanics and he doesn't become completely useless for pve when your at a high level cos of that green skill, meaning he's a fun character for new players but also has his uses for vets. To make him more useful to newer players he can have a skill similar to beasts that creates low level strike and protect, 3 new mechanics 1 character

ronin_san

They're going X-Men with these recent characters, so why not a Jubilee? Let her have a purple match, yellow match, and a stun. She's not about damage. She's about flashy lights and crackly popping nothingness. Low health, but if we could generate AP with her, I'd buy another cover slot and level her. Why not....She might actually be VERY useful in the "everyone is level 270" tournaments.

TheHueyFreeman

1 star lazy sentry

imagine how big the meta explosion would be.

themoneymaker

TheHueyFreeman wrote:

1 star lazy sentry

imagine how big the meta explosion would be.

Oh my yes I can't wait for the entire game to be broken if this happens

Pwuz_

Pretty sure that Devil Dino is ranked 1*... if they would only release him.

Give him a Red and Black ability and release into the wild.

Perhaps
Volcanic Explosion
Red 12 AP
Devil Dino's prehistoric environment throws the opposing team into chaos. Destroys up to 4 Red tiles and does x damage per tile to the enemy team and x damage to his own team.
Level Upgrades:
Level 2: Destroys up to 6 tiles.
Level 3: Destroyed tiles does increased damage.
Level 4: Destroys all Red tiles.
Level 5: No longer damages allies.

and some type of Black Regeneration ability?

Phaserhawk

with how readily you can get 2*'s now I'm not sure 1*'s are needed.

themoneymaker

Pwuz_ wrote:

Pretty sure that Devil Dino is ranked 1*... if they would only release him.

Give him a Red and Black ability and release into the wild.

Perhaps
Volcanic Explosion
Red 12 AP
Devil Dino's prehistoric environment throws the opposing team into chaos. Destroys up to 4 Red tiles and does x damage per tile to the enemy team and x damage to his own team.
Level Upgrades:
Level 2: Destroys up to 6 tiles.
Level 3: Destroyed tiles does increased damage.
Level 4: Destroys all Red tiles.
Level 5: No longer damages allies.

and some type of Black Regeneration ability?

I bumped the post about devil dino and as you can see from it they have had his character art cover and power for ages and iceX commented that if they ever were to release him it'd be a different 3 star version so i think its unlikely for them to release him and even more unlikely for them to release a 1 star version but i really hope they do. I love this guy.

Unknown

I'd love Devil Dino too as a roster addition. Maybe as a reward for one year of faithful playing?

True, some 1* could be really good with some tweaking. Take Yelena, for example. She's so kitty-droppings right now because her (rather useful) abilities are so absurdly expensive that you never get to use them. Half their price, and you'd have a pretty good defensive 1*.

Unknown

They should get rid of all the current one and two star Dark Avengers, and replace most of them with better versions. They should just forget Yelena ever existed, like most comics fans have.

As for creating new one-stars, why go any further than baby versions of the current ones? Pick a character, any character. Especially the new ones. Beast without fur. Ms. Marvel. White Psylocke with Purple Hair. Grey Hulk (though maybe he should be two-star). USAgent.

Or create new ones who are thematically weak, like the New Warriors or New Mutants circa 1984.

Unknown

For people that have 1 star rosters, every single character is new.

They don't need more than what's there because by the time they have to max a couple of them, they need to be transitioning to a 2 star roster.

TheHood

Create new one-star? Nah, they should declassify Bag-Man and Captain America 2* to 1*, so Daredevil, Beast and Loki (to 2*).
Personally, I think also Invisible Woman doesn't deserve 4* status...