Color Combos -- How to Fill in Everything

Nonce Equitaur 2
Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
edited September 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
In the power color chart (repeated below), there are gaps. Here's one possible color rejiggering that would give every color combo to at least one character.

___/333/___/333/333/___ - Hulk -- Anger (Black -> Purple)
222/___/___/222/222/___ - BWGS -- Pistol (Red -> Yellow)
111/___/___/111/___/111 - Hood -- Dormammu’s Aid (Blue -> Purple)
___/___/___/999/999/999 - Loki -- Gets Avoid from Hawkeye (Purple)
888/888/___/888/___/___ - Magneto (Blue -> Purple)
___/___/888/___/888/888 - Doctor Doom gets a Green power.
___/___/666/666/666/___ - Spiderman -- Web Bandages for a new Green power

Other possibilities
888/888/___/888/___/___ - IM40 -- Ballistic Salvo (Blue -> Purple)
___/___/888/___/888/888 - Invisible Woman -- Invisibility (Yellow -> Black)

Hulk should have Purple. Pistols in the game are usually Yellow. Hood's drain should be Purple. Doctor Doom is iconically Green. Loki needs a Purple power, and one is available. IM40 Salvo does boardshaking which is often purple. Spiderman needs something other than bandages. The above changes solve everything, and fills in all the gaps.

The current color breakdown for powers. [Brackets] have strong tiles in this set of colors. Bolds have 3 active powers. Characters with the same numbers cover all colors.
999/999/999/___/___/___ - Captain America, Iron Man, Magneto (Classic)
888/888/___/888/___/___ - Nobody
777/777/___/___/777/___ - Thor, Sentry, Ares, Wolverine
666/666/___/___/___/666 - Captain Marvel
555/___/555/555/___/___ - Nick Fury, Spider-Man, Falcon
444/___/444/___/444/___ - Invisible Woman, Beast, Storm (Classic)
333/___/333/___/___/333 - Black Panther, The Hood
222/___/___/222/222/___ - Nobody
111/___/___/111/___/111 - Nobody
000/___/___/___/000/000 - Wolverine (X-Force), Storm (Mohawk), Storm (Modern)
___/000/000/000/___/___ - Daredevil, Hawkeye (Modern)
___/111/111/___/111/___ - She-Hulk
___/222/222/___/___/222 - Psylocke
___/333/___/333/333/___ - Black Widow (Grey Suit)
___/444/___/444/___/444 - Moonstone, Deadpool
___/555/___/___/555/555 - Punisher, Human Torch, Hulk
___/___/666/666/666/___ - Nobody
___/___/777/777/___/777 - Black Widow (Original), Daken (Classic), [Doctor Doom]
___/___/888/___/888/888 - Nobody
___/___/___/999/999/999 - [Loki], [Bullseye]

With the changes, the combo chart would be as follows:
999/999/999/___/___/___ - Captain America, Iron Man
888/888/___/888/___/___ - Magneto (Classic)
777/777/___/___/777/___ - Thor, Sentry, Ares, Wolverine
666/666/___/___/___/666 - Captain Marvel
555/___/555/555/___/___ - Nick Fury, Falcon
444/___/444/___/444/___ - Beast, Invisible Woman, Storm (Classic)
333/___/333/___/___/333 - Black Panther
222/___/___/222/222/___ - Black Widow (Grey Suit)
111/___/___/111/___/111 - The Hood
000/___/___/___/000/000 - Wolverine (X-Force), Storm (Mohawk), Storm (Modern)
___/000/000/000/___/___ - Daredevil, Hawkeye (Modern)
___/111/111/___/111/___ - She-Hulk
___/222/222/___/___/222 - Psylocke
___/333/___/333/333/___ - Hulk
___/444/___/444/___/444 - Moonstone, Deadpool
___/555/___/___/555/555 - Punisher, Human Torch
___/___/666/666/666/___ - Spider-Man
___/___/777/777/___/777 - Black Widow (Original), Daken (Classic)
___/___/888/___/888/888 - Doctor Doom
___/___/___/999/999/999 - Loki, [Bullseye]

Comments

  • IM40 Salvo does boardshaking which is often purple.
    Can you provide examples where purple does board shaking similar to Ballistic Salvo? There's the Loki / former CMags style where they swap tiles. Then there's the BWGS / MN Mags that do targeted color tile change. I can't think of others that do his style of board shake up that are purple. It's more of a red skill a la Captain Marvel or Human Torch.

    Edit: As always, your posts are very informative. This is just nitpicking for the sake of my own understanding.
  • jojeda654
    jojeda654 Posts: 1,162 Chairperson of the Boards
    I was gonna nitpick on that one in particular as well. 3 tiles isn't really board shaking. Sounds more like HT/C.Mags/Sentry/She-Hulk. If anything, it is a variation of C.Storm's blue: AOE +Stun (at lvl 5)
  • jojeda654 wrote:
    I was gonna nitpick on that one in particular as well. 3 tiles isn't really board shaking. Sounds more like HT/C.Mags/Sentry/She-Hulk. If anything, it is a variation of C.Storm's blue: AOE +Stun (at lvl 5)
    She-Hulk I feel is an odd one. It seems her green should be purple or blue (AP drain / steal + healing), her red should be green (a la Storm's mass shattering), and her blue should be black (a la Trickery).

    Of course, we're approaching this from something akin to Magic's color wheel where each color is associated with a specific mechanic type or theme. I can't recall if that's ever been said by the devs that it is how they design abilities, or whether we're taking coincidental patterns and inferring improper correlations.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Riggy wrote:
    IM40 Salvo does boardshaking which is often purple.
    Can you provide examples where purple does board shaking similar to Ballistic Salvo? There's the Loki / former CMags style where they swap tiles. Then there's the BWGS / MN Mags that do targeted color tile change. I can't think of others that do his style of board shake up that are purple. It's more of a red skill a la Captain Marvel or Human Torch.

    Edit: As always, your posts are very informative. This is just nitpicking for the sake of my own understanding.

    Loki, CMags, BWGS, MN Mags, Daken, Falcon, Spiderman, Bullseye, Moonstone, Hawkeye -- all have Purple skills to mess with the board or put things on the board. The IM40 change is my weakest link here, but I think it would be a good change for him.
  • Unknown
    edited September 2014
    This would be easier/better if they'd stop changing the color of character abilities.
  • avs962
    avs962 Posts: 319 Mover and Shaker
    Riggy wrote:
    jojeda654 wrote:
    I was gonna nitpick on that one in particular as well. 3 tiles isn't really board shaking. Sounds more like HT/C.Mags/Sentry/She-Hulk. If anything, it is a variation of C.Storm's blue: AOE +Stun (at lvl 5)
    She-Hulk I feel is an odd one. It seems her green should be purple or blue (AP drain / steal + healing), her red should be green (a la Storm's mass shattering), and her blue should be black (a la Trickery).

    Of course, we're approaching this from something akin to Magic's color wheel where each color is associated with a specific mechanic type or theme. I can't recall if that's ever been said by the devs that it is how they design abilities, or whether we're taking coincidental patterns and inferring improper correlations.

    I don't have a link, but Ice has said that the type of power it is determines the color.
  • Riggy wrote:
    IM40 Salvo does boardshaking which is often purple.
    Can you provide examples where purple does board shaking similar to Ballistic Salvo? There's the Loki / former CMags style where they swap tiles. Then there's the BWGS / MN Mags that do targeted color tile change. I can't think of others that do his style of board shake up that are purple. It's more of a red skill a la Captain Marvel or Human Torch.

    Edit: As always, your posts are very informative. This is just nitpicking for the sake of my own understanding.

    Loki, CMags, BWGS, MN Mags, Daken, Falcon, Spiderman, Bullseye, Moonstone, Hawkeye -- all have Purple skills to mess with the board or put things on the board. The IM40 change is my weakest link here, but I think it would be a good change for him.
    I feel that categorization - "messing with the board" - is pretty broad. Adding things to the board isn't the same as destroying a small number of tiles. Plus, IM40 is the only one from that list who's a big tanky guy. The rest are more support style characters. None of the characters you listed really mimic the mechanic of big AOE nuke + small number of tiles destroyed.

    Purple is more evasion / protection. Very defensive in nature. Blue has often-times had a more "technical" feel to it (e.g. Anti-grav device, Ballistic Salvo, Technopathic Strike). If anything, I feel like his blue should be changed to green or black since that's where most of the big AOE nukes are (Black Panther, BWGS, Thor, even Punisher's black).

    Red Yellow Black would be a pretty nice change for him, honestly.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Riggy wrote:
    Purple is more evasion / protection. Very defensive in nature. Blue has often-times had a more "technical" feel to it (e.g. Anti-grav device, Ballistic Salvo, Technopathic Strike). If anything, I feel like his blue should be changed to green or black since that's where most of the big AOE nukes are (Black Panther, BWGS, Thor, even Punisher's black).

    Red Yellow Black would be a pretty nice change for him, honestly.

    I agree, would be good for IM40, and fits his color scheme better. We could leave IM40 out of this. I don't see a good way to fill in this last slot.

    888/888/___/888/___/___ -- Nobody

    However, all the other color combos can be filled, with the suggestions in the original post.
  • jojeda654
    jojeda654 Posts: 1,162 Chairperson of the Boards
    888/888/___/888/___/___ -- Nobody

    However, all the other color combos can be filled, with the suggestions in the original post.

    How about Nick? Demolition could be changed to Red. That would drop the Y/U/P category to just Falcon if you wanna give Spidey Green.
  • Kolence
    Kolence Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    ___/___/777/777/___/777 - Black Widow (Original), Daken (Classic), [Doctor Doom]
    ___/___/888/___/888/888 - Invisible Woman

    I'd rather see Doctor Doom get a third power on green and change strong color from purple to green.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    jojeda654 wrote:
    How about Nick? Demolition could be changed to Red. That would drop the Y/U/P category to just Falcon if you wanna give Spidey Green.

    This is an interesting idea, and it works, but I dunno how many would go for it. I've used it enough times that it feels like a blue power, now.

    Few would object to Loki and Doctor Doom getting third powers.
    Not too many would get upset to a change to the color of Hood and Hulk passive powers.
    Not too many would get upset about changing the color of Spidey's and BWGS' worst powers.

    A lot of people want Magneto to have a purple power. His colors are Red and Purple. I loved his Blue power, but it's time to make a clean break.

    888/888/___/888/___/___ -- Magneto (Blue -> Purple)
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Updated OP with Magneto suggestion.