Worst teammate combo?

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edited September 2014 in MPQ Tips and Guides
You know, there are constantly people asking who the best 2 character combos are in the game.
Sentry/Hood
Hulk/Daken
Magneto/Patch

But what, in your opinion, is the worst match up?

I saw one team that had Daken and Dr. Doom on the same team.

What?

That is so terrible. Not only does Daken take up all the red tokens, so you can't use Dr. Doom's black ability. But, in addition, Dr. Doom wipes away blue tokens, meaning Daken's healing & heat will now deal damage to him rather than heal him.

What are some other teammates that simply do not belong together?
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  • Worst team ever: Bullseye, Venom, Yelena (drops mic)
  • bullseye/hood/venom
  • Daken + Doom is probably the worst.

    Torch and Iron-man 40
    Torch and any Yellow/Blue/Purple user (Nick Fury, Bagman, Falcon)
    Torch and Ares
    Daredevil + Juggernaut/Ragnarok
    Sentry and Moonstone?

    Some of the biggest drawbacks:
    1. Torch's inferno, lose 30% Blue, Purple, Yellow
    2. Iron Man 40's Blue - 3 AP from all other colours
    3. Iron Man 40's Red - 4 AP from all other colours
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    daibar wrote:
    Daken + Doom is probably the worst.

    Torch and Iron-man 40
    Torch and any Yellow/Blue/Purple user (Nick Fury, Bagman, Falcon)
    Torch and Ares
    Daredevil + Juggernaut/Ragnarok
    Sentry and Moonstone?

    Some of the biggest drawbacks:
    1. Torch's inferno, lose 30% Blue, Purple, Yellow
    2. Iron Man 40's Blue - 3 AP from all other colours
    3. Iron Man 40's Red - 4 AP from all other colours

    Torch and Ares is fine. Ares' red kinda stinks unless he's crippled. Torch-Ares-OBW covers all colors and should end up a staple of 2* rosters in PvE or Simulator. Even without OBW, that's a combination I'll end up using a bunch. Ditto Torch/Thor.

  • Torch and Ares is fine. Ares' red kinda stinks unless he's crippled. Torch-Ares-OBW covers all colors and should end up a staple of 2* rosters in PvE or Simulator. Even without OBW, that's a combination I'll end up using a bunch. Ditto Torch/Thor.

    I like Torch/Thor a bit more than Torch/Ares primarily because Torch's Red and Green are very fast and I would likely play them over Thor's. Keep in mind Thor's yellow also feeds Torch's Green. I like Onslaught much better than Flame Jet and the Speed is more or less equal for more damage. Torch's red works really well with Ares though so I cannot complain to much.
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards

    I like Torch/Thor a bit more than Torch/Ares primarily because Torch's Red and Green are very fast and I would likely play them over Thor's. Keep in mind Thor's yellow also feeds Torch's Green. I like Onslaught much better than Flame Jet and the Speed is more or less equal for more damage. Torch's red works really well with Ares though so I cannot complain to much.

    Thor's yellow also has a non-zero chance of knocking the Flame Jet tile off the board with the random green addition. I lean Ares mostly because his yellow is considerably more lethal. Give you red/yellow/green all doing big damage, with Torch's black just supplementing it.

    Potato, potato though. Either way, Torch is still a match for the heavy hitters, simply because his red rivals Wolverine for strongest of the 2* (probably better considering total cost)
  • my first two maxed 3* were Steve and Psylocke. They work together terribly. competing for red and blue Cap wanting to slow down and put shields out, Psy wanting to hurry up and make quick attacks. Really frustrating trying to get them to play well together.
  • I dunno about WORST team, but it always surprises me to see two of the same RYG users on a team. Wolverine and Ares, Thor and Sentry. Seems counter productive to have 6 powers in 3 colors.
  • daibar wrote:
    Daken + Doom is probably the worst.

    Torch and Iron-man 40
    Torch and any Yellow/Blue/Purple user (Nick Fury, Bagman, Falcon)
    Torch and Ares
    Daredevil + Juggernaut/Ragnarok
    Sentry and Moonstone?

    Some of the biggest drawbacks:
    1. Torch's inferno, lose 30% Blue, Purple, Yellow
    2. Iron Man 40's Blue - 3 AP from all other colours
    3. Iron Man 40's Red - 4 AP from all other colours


    Torch + IM40 is one of the fastest combo if you keep IM40 yellow at 1. Hell, i have a 1 yellow cover IM40 just to combo up with torch. If you are using Torch for inferno and IM40 for balistic salvo or unibeam then you are doing it wrong.
    You might as well put every one with an expensive ability there cause you re pretty much saying their ability is costly so they are bad.
    All of your combo make absolutely no sense, you re pairing up torch with every one because his black is a nuisance? But who focus on that skill anyway.
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    Lerysh wrote:
    I dunno about WORST team, but it always surprises me to see two of the same RYG users on a team. Wolverine and Ares, Thor and Sentry. Seems counter productive to have 6 powers in 3 colors.

    Sentry/Lazy Thor means chewing through a lot of health trying to down them before they launch their powers. Pretty hard to deny and destroy fast enough such that you aren't taking a beating in the meantime.

    Same holds for Ares/Thor. Especially late in a PvP, it tends to be too much health to try to cut through quickly with a 2* roster.

  • I like Torch/Thor a bit more than Torch/Ares primarily because Torch's Red and Green are very fast and I would likely play them over Thor's. Keep in mind Thor's yellow also feeds Torch's Green. I like Onslaught much better than Flame Jet and the Speed is more or less equal for more damage. Torch's red works really well with Ares though so I cannot complain to much.

    Thor's yellow also has a non-zero chance of knocking the Flame Jet tile off the board with the random green addition. I lean Ares mostly because his yellow is considerably more lethal. Give you red/yellow/green all doing big damage, with Torch's black just supplementing it.

    Potato, potato though. Either way, Torch is still a match for the heavy hitters, simply because his red rivals Wolverine for strongest of the 2* (probably better considering total cost)
    Unless you've already got the colours covered, it seems less optimal to use Torch for black as opposed to Punisher, Psylocke or Panther with Ares.

    Most characters that share 2/3 active colours are not great together, but Ares/Thor may not be as bad due to Thor's generating powers as long as you time the powers right. Defensively, Ares hits hard but only has medium health. You can usually deny green, with secondary denial on yellow then red, downing Ares before he gets more than 1 power off. Thor's powers make it painful if you the round is extended. A lot of people avoid the 2 together. I have had to retreat from them after a bad cascade, but it's relatively rare. I agree Thor/Torch seems like it'd work well together with Thor feeding Torch's green. Haven't tried it in practice though.

    Back to the original topic, Daredevil/Juggernaut is still the worst I can come up with.
  • Daredevil and Daken. Daken deletes DD's red traps, DD takes blue from Daken and or Daken changes the colors of the blue traps (might not be a bad thing). Terrible Combo.
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    daibar wrote:
    Unless you've already got the colours covered, it seems less optimal to use Torch for black as opposed to Punisher, Psylocke or Panther with Ares.

    I agree, however I'm using the assumption that if you're using Ares, you're still firmly entrenched in 2* land. Torch is an available 2* character. Pun/Psy/BP aren't.
  • Tharos
    Tharos Posts: 129
    Storm (or anybody that can detroy a lot of tiles / create great cascades) with Daken, Wolverine, Cap, or anybody that generate special tiles you do not want to see disappear.

    Hood/Storm/anybody with low heath paired with Sentry (unless you have unlimited health packs)

    Bag-man with anybody else
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    Every combo with Daredevil is bad. You want to make him do something? Bring the OP Magneto who has the exact same colours and whose abilities are miles better than Daredevil's anyway. Waste 7 AP on an Ambush that might or might not work? Yeah thanks I'd rather destroy my guaranteed tiles and do guaranteed damage. You can't bring cascading characters as they may wipe out those precious useless traps, can't bring red overwriting/destroying characters of which we have plenty: Daken, Psylocke, Patch, Doom, HT, Sentry, can't use Falcon's Bird Strike or Storm's Hailstorm, can't use Inferno or World Rupture. Can we just nominate Daredevil as the overall worst partner to team up with?
    Torch's black is not as bad, if you time it right. An early game Inferno is a wrecking ball, and Johnny Storm will definitely need 5 in black since other 2* green abilities are usually better than his, but there are no viable blacks.
  • Lerysh wrote:
    I dunno about WORST team, but it always surprises me to see two of the same RYG users on a team. Wolverine and Ares, Thor and Sentry. Seems counter productive to have 6 powers in 3 colors.

    Unless they can help each other tank. Love the Wolverine/Thor combo, using Thor's yellow at level 5 to create a bunch of green to cascade and set off Wolverine's green for quick damage AND strike tiles, especially when they level Wolvie up.
  • whitecat31
    whitecat31 Posts: 579 Critical Contributor
    Worst is Invisble Woman, Bagman, and Yelena. No quick offensive power and no hitpoints.
  • Spidey, Falcon and Original Widow. While each of them is a great defensive/supporting character (or at least was one once icon_lol.gif ), they plain suck in offence. Though Spidey and Falcon actually play well together, despite using the same colours.
  • FR3L4NCER wrote:
    Daredevil and Daken. Daken deletes DD's red traps, DD takes blue from Daken and or Daken changes the colors of the blue traps (might not be a bad thing). Terrible Combo.
    Ooooh. That's a good one.

    But to be fair, Daredevil is absolutely horrendous even without Daken haha.

    I truly feel sorry for anyone that invested iso in dare devil.

    The only reason I haven't sold the covers I get for him is because I anticipate a hefty buff in the next 3 to 5 years.
  • Cabol
    Cabol Posts: 184 Tile Toppler
    Daredevil and any cover that removes blocks (Hulk's Thunderclap, Human Torch's Fireball, etc) so DD's traps don't activate.