General Spiderman and Bullseye Q

tempestuousfury

I don't have Bullseye and my Spiderman is under-leveled so I can't try this. I was just wondering if that combination is good to use defensively and/or offensively in PvP. In the current PvE, there are little pops going off insanely with Spiderman on my team and Bullseye on the other.

Thanks for your opinions and feedback.

HairyDave

In terms of actually winning on defence, probably not. But I'd bet you'd get a ton of skips just to avoid the irritation - even more if you could jam Falcon in there.

On offense it would be so tedious I'd almost be tempted to throw you a pity retreat

Unknown

I've never played with/seen the combo, but I wouldn't think so. Regarding purple defense tiles, Spidey stops creating any if there are 4 out (at max covers), whether or not he generated them, so you just save yourself two purple matches by bringing Spidey in addition to Bullseye. Besides for that your powers are: an expensive meh black you'll never get off, fake healing for 12 yellow, and a stun that only works semi-OK if you don't use Spidey's heal as that can eliminate web tiles.

So all you're really looking at with this team is hitting on 4/6 colors, two meh defensive powers that work against each other, and your only offensive strike is Murderous Aim. If you're relying on Murderous Aim and a few protect tiles to win your matches, you're in serious trouble.

tl;dr no. the annoying factor may get you a few skips due to all the "-1" match-3s in the beginning, but once any offensive teams gets powers going you're done.

EDIT: Oh my god, Dave. Falcon? The constant purples from the duo going to Falcon's extra shielding would likely get a skip out of me. Not because of fear, but because I simply don't want that experience.

Unknown

The fact that two thirds of the team cant actually hurt anyone is pretty bad. Yeah, after a few turns your opponent does 1's on match damage, but so what? You aren't doing anything to them, theyll just get some AP then kill you.

HairyDave

Jjosh wrote:

EDIT: Oh my god, Dave. Falcon? The constant purples from the duo going to Falcon's extra shielding would likely get a skip out of me. Not because of fear, but because I simply don't want that experience.

It'd be worth trying for a giggle in Webslinger but sadly I don't have Bullseye.

BearVenger

Bullseye was one of my fave 2*s, but at max is still under-healthed or under-offensed. Murderous Aim is an awesome, but way too costly ability for his little health. It's tough to be a glass adamantium shield. If only he had any offensive abilities or a different shield color than Spidey.

I think a Spidey/Falcon/Bullseye team is only viable with a metric ton of TUs -AND- in the last hour of PvP

Unknown

HairyDave wrote:

Jjosh wrote:

EDIT: Oh my god, Dave. Falcon? The constant purples from the duo going to Falcon's extra shielding would likely get a skip out of me. Not because of fear, but because I simply don't want that experience.

It'd be worth trying for a giggle in Webslinger but sadly I don't have Bullseye.

Ya, me neither . So my Plan B is to leave the 3*s by the door and run Spidey along with CStorm and MBW. When anyone sees my team they'll be so confused as to why I stacked the power stunning on blue when Spidey's will go off every time, that they'll just decide to skip . 1300 here I come!

Mawtful

HairyDave wrote:

Jjosh wrote:

EDIT: Oh my god, Dave. Falcon? The constant purples from the duo going to Falcon's extra shielding would likely get a skip out of me. Not because of fear, but because I simply don't want that experience.

It'd be worth trying for a giggle in Webslinger but sadly I don't have Bullseye.

I often run Spidey + Falcon + Human Torch, even though none are properly capped yet. I've taken a few 1 (3) damage COTS with this lineup.

It's a little tricky, since you do really have to make sure you put up some shields first as no-one's covering Johnny. It's also tedious to play on offense, not going to deny that. I haven't really tried since the introduction of Team Ups - which is obviously a great way to give this team some damage.

HailMary

tempestuousfury wrote:

I was just wondering if that combination is good to use defensively and/or offensively in PvP.

On offense, nope. That would be the slowest game ever.

On defense, nope. Sure, Spidey Protect tiles will mitigate basic match damage, but there are far too many high-damage 3* abilities that'll blow through those things without so much as an eyebrow raise. You'll annoy your opponent, but s/he'll never be in any real danger of losing.

Unknown

HailMary wrote:

tempestuousfury wrote:

I was just wondering if that combination is good to use defensively and/or offensively in PvP.

On offense, nope. That would be the slowest game ever.

On defense, nope. Sure, Spidey Protect tiles will mitigate basic match damage, but there are far too many high-damage 3* abilities that'll blow through those things without so much as an eyebrow raise. You'll annoy your opponent, but s/he'll never be in any real danger of losing.

Hmmm.... So you're saying Spidey and dp would be best friends.... So Spidey would need to tank purple, but have less health than HP..... Who would the third be? Lt?

tempestuousfury

Thanks for all of the feedback, guys.

I can understand the slowness and irritation, and 3* destroying the team. It would be nice to see a player's reaction to fighting a Falcon, Bullseye, Sman combo if he didn't know what he was getting into. ^.^

Yeah, lack of offence was definitely something I had in the back of my mind. The meh black ability for Bullseye is why he stays off my roster.

scottee

I faced a Falcon/Spidey/CMags team. That was actually worse than Bullseye/Spidey because CMags plays his blue randomly, so they actually function as protect tiles. With Falcon's yellow buffing them, it took foreeeeeever. Sure, the only offense they had was Translocation, which went off once, but it took a ton of time to build up abilities and take them down.

wuweird

I like using MNMags/CStorm/Bullseye teams, mostly because my focus is on grabbing purples for Polarity Shift in order to power up CStorm's AOE. The defensive bonus is a nice cherry on top.

Unknown

wuweird wrote:

I like using MNMags/CStorm/Bullseye teams, mostly because my focus is on grabbing purples for Polarity Shift in order to power up CStorm's AOE. The defensive bonus is a nice cherry on top.

It's still defensively weak due to low hp, particularly to MNMags/CStorm or Thor. Wind Storm cares not for a few protect tiles.

Unknown

HairyDave wrote:

In terms of actually winning on defence, probably not. But I'd bet you'd get a ton of skips just to avoid the irritation - even more if you could jam Falcon in there.

On offense it would be so tedious I'd almost be tempted to throw you a pity retreat

I'm so tempted to make this build. It's sounds like fun.

I find C-Mags/MoStorm/Falcon to be a delight to play with. Get defense tiles first, then boost them with inspiration and get three types of board shake-up with mistress of the elements, lightning strike and magnetic projectiles. Add TUs that place strike tiles and you're all set for a good time. It lacks nuke abilities but you end up with way too much AP very quickly.

Kelbris

tempestuousfury wrote:

I don't have Bullseye and my Spiderman is under-leveled so I can't try this. I was just wondering if that combination is good to use defensively and/or offensively in PvP. In the current PvE, there are little pops going off insanely with Spiderman on my team and Bullseye on the other.

Thanks for your opinions and feedback.

Bullseye works best when he's at the exact same level as OBW (with her in front) so you get espionage/p.tile/AP for recon.

It's really only viable in PvE. I keep him at 54 so that when he gets a +40 buff, I can use this combo.

I get bored of 3*. Then again with true healing this combo might not work as well as it used to.

squirrel1120

Season 1 saw me spend a lot of time with bullseye. Not a ton in 2+ featured, but definitely in simulator and pve. Pre-true healing, it always made keeping up with healing so much easier. I also popped off murderous aim at least every other match, especially with running obw, as matching black for espionage made it go pretty quick actually, and putting 2 crit tiles anywhere you wanted was quite liberating when it blew the last character to smitherines.

On a related bullseye note, I'm really glad I killed a full heath Juggernaught with the damage bonus from getting off two murderous aim's in a row. It'd be a bit harder now without the forest environment to feed the extra black needed for the second without moving the board. I guess anyone that can place specific colored tiles with an ability would be able to pull it off with him occasionally... but what a very limited ability. You REALLY have to go out of your way to get that to do what it is supposed to do.

OnesOwnGrief

Never mix Spidey and Bullseye. Spidey has an upward limit to his tile placement and you'd hit that cap sooner with Bullseye who's placing weaker tiles overall. Black Panther also has an upward limit as well if you find yourself asking the same question then.