Do you ever actually lose?

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I've been thinking about this for a little while - in the PVP events does anybody actually lose?

Unless you're attacking a huge mismatch (I'm talking about 20s vs 100s) I don't really see how it is possible when you factor in boosts, abilities and the fact that you get three attempts to do it. Throw in the boosted characters when they are available to and it seems that anyone within a 40/50 level range of you is fair game.

It's why you always get hit for points. The recent debate that has come up regarding Grind vs Rubberbanding, in the PVP tournaments getting rid of the '3 chances to win' would take an awful lot of the grind out of your life. You'd have to be a bit more careful about who you went and attacked also.

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There's times I lose on 1st attempt if I get too risky with my health or if the computer goes on crazy cascades. Can't really remember losing all 3 ever. I do like the idea of the 1 chance. Would make defense a more realistic thing.

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The only time i lose is when i have a very damaged team and try to go for one last match before i heal up. The opponent gets a lucky cascade and/or i don't play smart and get wiped out. So i go back in with my c-team to try to wipe that last guy out but forget how **** my c-team is and they get knocked out too. At that point I am so disgusted with my stupidity that I yield for -5 points rather then bother tryng for a third time. That's happened to me once or twice

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I've been attacked quite a few times where the opponent needed more than one turn or even failed completely. It is rare, but it happens.
Also, I have myself lost to other teams a few times. Before buffed crit damage was reduced, the ai could pull off a nice cascade that took a good chunk of your health. If that happened before you had a lot of ap yourself, you were basically screwed. I even got killed by forest fire once. Not a good way to go.

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Like others, I can lose if a bad cascade occurs. My 85 Thor, 77 C.Storm, 30 IM40 was perma-stunned and taken out by a MASSIVE M.Storm/M.Widow combo. My team was practically full health. Profanities ensued.

If I lose the first try, I sometimes just yield if the points just don't justify the retaliation. Sometimes the loss of points from yielding is the better way to go. I'm not prideful lol.

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abuelo wrote:

I've been thinking about this for a little while - in the PVP events does anybody actually lose?

Unless you're attacking a huge mismatch (I'm talking about 20s vs 100s) I don't really see how it is possible when you factor in boosts, abilities and the fact that you get three attempts to do it. Throw in the boosted characters when they are available to and it seems that anyone within a 40/50 level range of you is fair game.

It's why you always get hit for points. The recent debate that has come up regarding Grind vs Rubberbanding, in the PVP tournaments getting rid of the '3 chances to win' would take an awful lot of the grind out of your life. You'd have to be a bit more careful about who you went and attacked also.

There was a bug that carried Classic Storm's passive ability into the second or third attempt if you triggered it multiple times during the first attempt. I've lost three times (very quickly) that way before.

I've also tried rematches that I just should not have tried because I didn't want to lose points by yielding.

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Love the idea of the single attempt. 3 doesn't make any sense tbh.

Purty_Hawkeye

I've lost to a few forest fires in Lightning Rounds. I've also hung on by my fingernails to come back and win a few of those too. One loss was to a cascade of epic proportion that felt like it went on for 20 seconds with multiple crits going off. I just watched each of my team get picked off one-by-one as the cascade paused to let me know each hero was dead. Those pauses were just terrible because I could see the terrible tsunami massing behind as soon as it started up again. I can't complain because I got one of those in my favor; to start one match I made one match-4 and then the resulting cascade took care of the rest.

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I've had people lose to me, so some must. I did lose once when I went in with characters with too low of health. Then I accidentally when in with the low level free character instead of my high level character. Since the other two characters were my B-team, I just retreated. Then on the last go, my B-team couldn't kill fast enough, and I got caught in a bad loop with thorned rose.

Nonce Equitaur 2

I've had some bad luck, particularly when up against level 230 villains. Bad cascades, or an opening field with all "bad" colors can be lethal against a high level team.

Sometimes, I've been dropped down to a single team member, who is badly hurt. With Mags, Rags, Thor, Wolverine, Daken, or Spidey, sometimes the match is still winnable, though with Spidey it can take forever.

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I've never lost the full three times in a row, but I consider losing the first round a loss.

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adamLmpq wrote:

I've never lost the full three times in a row, but I consider losing the first round a loss.

This. After all, your heroes are downed and you lose half the points you would've gotten from a win.

As with others, I've lost first round sometimes, and for the same reasons -- old C Storm kicking off at wrong time (usually caused by my C Storm kicking off), then taking in a too hurt of a team, and finally lucky AI cascades (which is usually compounded by the second reason).

The ones that hurt are when the enemy is only one match away from being downed. I've had to go in a second time to wipe up a 7 hp enemy before. And there was a bug at the time that made your first match do no damage and generate no AP in such a situation. So you would end up taking some damage, however minimal.

I've had others yield to me, and I think I've seen someone run out of attempts 2 or 3 times so far.

I'm all for the "one and done" though -- I do think it would improve the game.

Unknown

Agree, I definitely lose first round sometimes to a first turn super cascade into infinite abilities.

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I lost all three times once or twice when starting out, but now it doesn't happen that often. Although I still lose once to another player's team if the CPU gets a lucky cascade.

Although during the Bad is Good tourney, I had quite a few people lose all their attempts on me. Guess pumping up my Daken and Moonstone was a good idea after all.

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Like everyone says, first loss = loss. With that said, I lose much more often than I'd like. Down here in the 2 star rankings, whoever loses their thor first loses the match. Combine that with the NPC's knack for cascades, needing ISO too much to spam boosts, and having to target cstorm first, and it doesn't take too much bad luck to lose.

(and yes, I know cstorm can't knock out my whole team anymore, but killing her first is the difference between a healthpack for thor afterwards or healthpacks on the whole team)

Spoit

Yeah, even with full boosts, for those 230 missions I was only successful like 2/3 of the time, and even then usually needed to heal back up afterwards.

If the enemy cascades more than 10 of a useful color like red or blue, sometimes I just retreat, since I figure at that point the what, 25% health loss for retreating, is less than the kittying that they'd be able to inflict from using those skills

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Aluminium_Man wrote:

Like everyone says, first loss = loss. With that said, I lose much more often than I'd like. Down here in the 2 star rankings, whoever loses their thor first loses the match. Combine that with the NPC's knack for cascades, needing ISO too much to spam boosts, and having to target cstorm first, and it doesn't take too much bad luck to lose.

(and yes, I know cstorm can't knock out my whole team anymore, but killing her first is the difference between a healthpack for thor afterwards or healthpacks on the whole team)

Pretty much this for me too. I hope the next wave of heroes has a few good 2 stars in them. The game is really starting to lose its charm when it's Thor vs Thor every match.

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Same as everyone else, though most commonly I lose b/c my pride gets in the way of common sense when going in for a 2nd or 3rd attempt.

I actually like the 3 attempts over one-and-done just b/c I will take more risk in picking targets. I feel that if I only have one shot, I'll start picking lower level targets instead of balancing points into the equation.

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Crazy Cascades in easy battles have doomed me on occasion when I'm not healed up from previous fights.