D3P takes cheaters very seriously. (It's a bug!)

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  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    Of more concern is my points. I only played one match, so I shouldn't have 436 points
    Unless somehow my points from eidehua transferred to eidehua_PC
    I've always wanted to link my mobile account to PC.. just not like this icon_e_smile.gif
  • jojeda654
    jojeda654 Posts: 1,162 Chairperson of the Boards
    Regalis wrote:
    Pop Quiz:

    Which of these two entities has produced more bugs:

    demiurge
    OR
    National_Security_Agency

    The correct answer is:
    C.
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  • hex706f726368
    hex706f726368 Posts: 421 Mover and Shaker
    Cragger wrote:
    I find it interesting that anyone but other alt-account/noobs would be matched up against that roster. There has to be some additional MMR glitching to get matched up against such a new player. Unless Hex is a serious and dedicated tanker..

    Edit/add: Could you change the title to something like "A Case study in D3 CS cheat/bug submission" to better reflect the known information in the thread?

    I do tank (not sure how serious or dedicated I am), but by that point I was already seeing 3* or mix-maxed 2*/3* rosters (hence the couple skips already). The points displayed and where/when they showed up is definitely interesting. I assumed the user is getting to take advantage of the level boosts, but it sounds like from what eidehua is saying, that's not the case, just inflated point totals.
  • Unknown
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    jojeda654 wrote:
    Regalis wrote:
    Pop Quiz:

    Which of these two entities has produced more bugs:

    demiurge
    OR
    National_Security_Agency

    The correct answer is:
    C.
    220px-Microsoft_logo_and_wordmark.svg.png

    Probably both true and not as funny as you think it is, because the first question is largely equivalent to asking "what entity has produced the most software."
  • Unknown
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    Cragger wrote:
    I find it interesting that anyone but other alt-account/noobs would be matched up against that roster. There has to be some additional MMR glitching to get matched up against such a new player. Unless Hex is a serious and dedicated tanker.

    That's definitely the enemy I saw and I had tanked my MMR really hard for LRs, so that's probably the case for him too.
  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    Ok, I was dumb and tried to print screen MPQ in full screen-- forgot this was not hearthstone so print screen does not save screen shots.
    But what I will say is that I was greeted with many progression reward screens: 100,200,50,300,400 so it seems somehow I did achieve that 400+ score (even though I only played one match). And note I got these prog reward screens in the main menu.

    I do have this pic though:
    http://i.imgur.com/eSM2V78
    Even though I entered into the heavy metal tourney and fought with lvl 70 IW, I still see her as 30 here. When I go to the secondary fight screen the levels are fixed (on my end). This could be linked to my weird roster levels, but I have no idea how I gained so many points. I'll enter balance of power now and see if I gain random points again. (I'll try to actually get a screen shot of progression rewards in the main menu).

    edit: JK i won't enter balance of power b/c I cant icon_rolleyes.gif
    Also my Thor is level 46 for some reason, even in second fight screen
    Yeah, My roster still shows IW as 30 for me, and Thor as 6 for me, even though I fought with them in heavy metal as lvl 70/15
  • Unknown
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    hurcules wrote:
    Baltias wrote:
    Talking about cheater, I got hit by the same player three times in a roll during Lightning rounds. It's only like 2 minutes turn around each hit. How is it even possible?
    Was it someone by the name "A L P H A", without quotes?

    I got hit by him twice some 15 mins apart. The first time I saw he hit my maxed Hood/Patch/Cmag with loaner Hood/IM35/MStorm. IM35 showed level 1 or 2 in the battle screen, but when I looked at his roster, IM35 was level 214. Was pretty sure it was cheater roster and I took some screen shots and promptly beat him easy. He had 2 pages of rosters.

    Second time he hit me with the same team again. But when I looked at his roster, this time he had 4-6 pages of rosters, with single cover Sentry and LDaken. Beat him again. Did not take screenshot of his roster this time round as I just wanted to get on with farming ISO and lunch.

    No, it's someone from the Xmen alliances for sure. Now that I read the link suggested, I fully understood what's going on. Surprise Surprise, members of the Xmen alliances. So that's how they get such high score by delay attacks. Very good one.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    eidehua wrote:
    edit: JK i won't enter balance of power b/c I cant icon_rolleyes.gif
    Why can't you? I was thinking maybe your mStorm/Thor team could get def wins but this many, with unmaxed characters... All around weird.
  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    locked wrote:
    eidehua wrote:
    edit: JK i won't enter balance of power b/c I cant icon_rolleyes.gif
    Why can't you? I was thinking maybe your mStorm/Thor team could get def wins but this many, with unmaxed characters... All around weird.

    Well I'm seeing high level enemies (relative to my roster). I guess my mmr got boosted a bit when I got to 400 points. I mean I'm facing higher level 1 stars and such. I could beat them in a normal tourney with lvl 70 IW, but not in this one sadly (balance power op). I'll join psy's event. Plus, I was up against seed teams when I entered heavy metal

    Also regarding defensive wins-- I saw the retaliation popup, but it only showed +40 some. But it DID show +40 which means somehow people lost to my roster-- maybe they do see the broken leveled characters

    Edit: oh I did enter in, but at 0 points. Forgot that you enter with a loss.. not sure if ppl will see me at 0 points though.

    Edit 2: Joined Fresh Cut. Team is 70 IW/15 Thor/60 Psy.
    http://imgur.com/a/CqRNy

    My roster still shows old levels
  • Neuromancer
    Neuromancer Posts: 203 Tile Toppler
    I too ran into adore21 during the same tournament, and sent in a customer service ticket for the exact same reason.
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    Pretty sure this is an exploit, not a bug, and it can be taken to severe levels. Smarter cheaters are keeping their characters at possible levels and blaming a "bug" for the shift. Others on the other hand...

    Screenshot_2014-07-19-21-38-17.png
  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    edited July 2014
    Exploits are the use of bugs/glitches players use to get advantages in games. So it does seem it can be a bug that is abusable, but also there definitely are people who aren't using it to cheat (say-- me with my pc account i rarely use icon_e_smile.gif )

    In addition, customer support has confirmed it is a bug regarding the level shift

    As an update to fresh cut: I've been attacked a few times and have lost every time, so my score is <25 (last I checked). Not sure how I got to 400+ last time

    Also, did you try fighting that? You definitely should. If it's really that high in match, one retreat won't hurt the knowledge gained that it's not a display bug.

    Finally, it's not a possible level anyways, for a 1 cover character to get that high a level-- people would still report it, and then D3/demiurge will look at it and determine if it was a exploit or a bug.
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    Had one pop up in my queue for fresh cut. Check this one out... http://i.imgur.com/H79AGdt.jpg
  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    pbrownusmc wrote:
    Had one pop up in my queue for fresh cut. Check this one out... http://i.imgur.com/H79AGdt.jpg
    I think this person is exploiting-- he's up at 1.3k points, although i somehow got to 400+ points (I only played one match myself) Also they are actually level 1905 it seems, which is way over the max levels obtainable with full covers
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    pbrownusmc wrote:
    Had one pop up in my queue for fresh cut. Check this one out... http://i.imgur.com/H79AGdt.jpg

    This is the same guy of the screenshot I posted, level 1905 single cover Widow, Juggs. If you check his roster it's normal looking.
  • eidehua
    eidehua Posts: 521 Critical Contributor
    So I just finished fresh cut, nothing strange happened. Ended at 21 points. I also created an alliance if people want to view my pc roster-- it's called In An Alliance.

    Noticed something strange. My lvl 15 thor with 1 green cover says deal 613 dmg to all targets and an additional 613 to the target. Is this right?

    Also, recruited an obw to my roster-- she's lvl 15 while my other characters are still not level shifted (in my roster view at least).
    Pics:
    http://imgur.com/a/newMD
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bug or hack, people shouldn't be taking advantage of it. People have been sandboxed for less than this.
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    Lerysh wrote:
    pbrownusmc wrote:
    Had one pop up in my queue for fresh cut. Check this one out... http://i.imgur.com/H79AGdt.jpg

    This is the same guy of the screenshot I posted, level 1905 single cover Widow, Juggs. If you check his roster it's normal looking.

    No, it really isn't.

    I got a shot of the first page of his roster. Level 404 versions of Widow, Juggs, and Classic Hawkeye, along with a maxed X-Force Wolverine, a maxed Classic Mags, and a level 140 0/5/5 Hulk.
  • renfox
    renfox Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    I play on my iphone, but there are plenty of hack tools out there for changing characters stats and unlimited free purchases that people are exploiting. All those people that have maxed characters the day of a released character? Yeah, that's fake money their spending to get that.
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    And behold! From the darkest depths of Hell, this thread rises from the grave! The dreaded necromancer Renfox strikes!

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