List of Powers Chasm Broke (or, things you didn't know were start-of-game abilities) FIXED!

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  • JimboJambo
    JimboJambo Posts: 141 Tile Toppler
    Clearly not working as intended - read the character blog and what it says about Shang Chi. If they had intended him to (randomly) shut down a bunch of passives then they would have mentioned it. PVP has been okay so far, but very dull. I am grinding away with colossus and ihulk. Potentially part of a new defensive meta that will make the game slower and less enjoyable.
  • AdeptusRevolt
    AdeptusRevolt Posts: 125 Tile Toppler
    Updated first post to add reported issues with Adam and YJ. 

    Broken Circle is in CA, it's only about 11 am there on the first business day since this was identified. And it looks like they probably have to debug each character's power interactions. IIRC there were multiple character engineers, and clearly similar powers don't always work the same way. New dev team, and all that code is new to them. 

    I'm sure they will implement a fix and clarify what is supposed to work this way and what doesn't. Just trying to list the interactions so people don't waste more health packs figuring it out. And maybe it helps troubleshoot on the dev side by having a single list of known issues. 
  • jsmjsmjsm00
    jsmjsmjsm00 Posts: 268 Mover and Shaker
    ... They specifically did mention that it shuts down a bunch of start of game passives. Also, the blog does call out that Chasm is intended as a Shang Chi counter. So again, we do not know which interactions are intended and which are not.

    @AdeptusRevolt I agree that it is beneficial to track everything for possible reference by the devs. I'm complaining moreso about the people that are being overly negative. There's a lot of Karen energy coming out here and on reddit with this character release. 
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,740 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2022
    dianetics said:
    Individual fixes...sounds like this is going to take a long time.
    Yup.

    I suspect that at the start of battle, characters have their passive powers added to a passive list of some kind that gets checked during the game to see if the passive triggered. Since we know Chasm created a whole new level (pre-pre battle) my guess is that this is preventing the list from being generated correctly (maybe because everyone starts stunned). What will have to happen is every character is going to have to be manually checked to see if their passives should be added (SC for example) since they happen during the game or not (start of battle stuff like BRB/Grocket).

    It also says probably a lot more character powers are broken than anyone realizes simply because those characters are so rarely used or would not be used against Chasm.

    KGB
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Please fix the characters in the following order:

    1. Adam Warlock
    2. Shang Chi
    3. Okoye
    4. Apocalypse
    5. The rest
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,740 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2022
    HoundofShadow said:
    Please fix the characters in the following order:

    1. Adam Warlock
    2. Shang Chi
    3. Okoye
    4. Apocalypse
    5. The rest
    It would be best for balance purposes to fix them all at once or none at all rather than piece meal. Not everyone comes here to find out which characters are broke and which are fixed and the lobbying for the order will be off the charts annoying.

    To be honest, the hotfix should really be to disable Chasm's passive power entirely (ie comment out the pre-pre battle code). Virtually no one has him covered so having him have 1 useless power for a week or two matters far less than having all the above characters (and more) be useless.

    KGB
  • CharlieLima
    CharlieLima Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    DevpoolMPQ_BCS said:
    Thanks for all of the posts and feedback! Fixes are on the way and are targeted for later today:

    • ApocalypseClassic - SharedStrength
    • JuggernaughtFearItself - Unstoppable
    • Karnak - FindTheFlaw
    • Okoye - WakandaForever
    • PeggyCarter - LegendaryPresence
    • ShangChi - DeadlyHands
    • ShangChi - VitalBalance
    • TheHydraStomper - FrontLine
    We're presently looking into Adam Warlock. We'll keep you posted!
    Thanks! Keep up the good work!
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    You can add Scarlet Witch as well. Her green isn't working properly. Even with her repeater tile on the board she takes the full damage of an iHulk aoe in this garbage event.
  • justsing
    justsing Posts: 515 Critical Contributor
    DevpoolMPQ_BCS said:
    Thanks for all of the posts and feedback! Fixes are on the way and are targeted for later today:

    • ApocalypseClassic - SharedStrength
    • JuggernaughtFearItself - Unstoppable
    • Karnak - FindTheFlaw
    • Okoye - WakandaForever
    • PeggyCarter - LegendaryPresence
    • ShangChi - DeadlyHands
    • ShangChi - VitalBalance
    • TheHydraStomper - FrontLine
    We're presently looking into Adam Warlock. We'll keep you posted!
    Thank you for the quick reply and work on all this! All the communication and efforts are appreciated!
  • Dok12
    Dok12 Posts: 45 Just Dropped In
    Thank you for the quick response and fixes! 
  • TheEyeDoctorsWife
    TheEyeDoctorsWife Posts: 832 Critical Contributor
    HoundofShadow said:
    Please fix the characters in the following order:

    1. Adam Warlock
    2. Shang Chi
    3. Okoye
    4. Apocalypse
    5. The rest
    Even though i use 2 of them 95% of the time I hope they are fixed dead last along with any other meta 
  • obikenobi12
    obikenobi12 Posts: 41 Just Dropped In
    Big Wheels Wheelhouse ability isn't working. It's not even working correctly in matches where Chasm isn't even present. His Wheelhouse ability keeps resetting at 0 every turn and he doesn't do any damage or rotate the board. This is very frustrating as I haventhismability maxed at level t and I use Big Wheel a lot in pve/PvP. Please add him to the fixes! All of his abilities hinge upon having speed points. 
  • justsing
    justsing Posts: 515 Critical Contributor
    It looks like Wanda is still bugged. Her Mystical Feedback isn't reducing damage properly.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2022
    @WilliamK1983 All requests made by players are for selfish reasons, including those that are supposedly good for the "longevity" of the game. There's nothing to be surprised about. 

    These 4 choices were proposed rationally. Since the dev can't fix all characters simultaneously, but only individually; therefore, it makes sense to prioritise these 4 first for 5* players since they are the most commonly used. 4* and below players would probably be hiding behind Chasm's match damage anyway.

    Adam Warlock - current boost list
    Okoye/Apocalypse - for top players
    Shang Chi - for many new 5* or even 4* players.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don’t think Odin’s Protector of the 9 Realms is reducing damage properly. I’ve been trying to run him to see what a 5/5/5 chasm would feel like and he keeps getting match damaged to death for what seems like full damage even though he still jumps to the front.
  • Mrcl25
    Mrcl25 Posts: 138 Tile Toppler
    justsing said:
    It looks like Wanda is still bugged. Her Mystical Feedback isn't reducing damage properly.
    Any word on the SW fix? I haven't seen her in the list of characters being looked upon. 
    @DevpoolMPQ_BCS
    @IceIX

  • nunziotkp
    nunziotkp Posts: 5 Just Dropped In
    edited August 2022
    morgh said:
    * Warlock's increased damage is not working (unless you are below 50% HP and get back into the increased damage range through self-heals)
    * Okoye's increase does not work - regardless if you have a chasm on your side if you are playing against chasm

    I'm have to say this is some deep ****... anyone has tested what this char before actual release? If they did, they should be fired...

    For me Okoye's TU match damage increase is not working even in matches where Chasm is on neither team. It's just not working.

    Update:

    Okoye's team-up damage is now working correctly for me in non-Chasm matches. Yay. Thanks BC!

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