entrailbucket said: KGB said: entrailbucket said: Players should be able to compete and win using any character. I should be able to win fights against lvl550 SW/Colossus with lvl600+ Kingpin/Wasp, and win them easily. Yes and No.If the game is designed around an Iron Golem/Rust Monster/Mind Flayer (I prefer that over rock/paper/scissors) model and you bring scissors against a rock team you should lose virtually every time (minus big time luck). So any 2 random characters you pick should not necessarily beat any other 2 characters and definitely not easily.But yes, you should definitely be able to form a team with Wasp/Kingpin and beat some other pick 2 teams if the matchup is right. The problem is you just don't get to see those teams because no one is using them and even if a few players are, they make sure to leave out the Colossus/SW team on defense.KGBP.S. And yes, I'm fully aware the gulf between the best and worst characters is too wide (this is true in 3*, 4* as well as 5* land). I agree with this. I was using those characters as examples, you've stated my argument more clearly and generally than I did.
KGB said: entrailbucket said: Players should be able to compete and win using any character. I should be able to win fights against lvl550 SW/Colossus with lvl600+ Kingpin/Wasp, and win them easily. Yes and No.If the game is designed around an Iron Golem/Rust Monster/Mind Flayer (I prefer that over rock/paper/scissors) model and you bring scissors against a rock team you should lose virtually every time (minus big time luck). So any 2 random characters you pick should not necessarily beat any other 2 characters and definitely not easily.But yes, you should definitely be able to form a team with Wasp/Kingpin and beat some other pick 2 teams if the matchup is right. The problem is you just don't get to see those teams because no one is using them and even if a few players are, they make sure to leave out the Colossus/SW team on defense.KGBP.S. And yes, I'm fully aware the gulf between the best and worst characters is too wide (this is true in 3*, 4* as well as 5* land).
entrailbucket said: Players should be able to compete and win using any character. I should be able to win fights against lvl550 SW/Colossus with lvl600+ Kingpin/Wasp, and win them easily.
Sekilicious said: entrailbucket said: KGB said: entrailbucket said: Players should be able to compete and win using any character. I should be able to win fights against lvl550 SW/Colossus with lvl600+ Kingpin/Wasp, and win them easily. Yes and No.If the game is designed around an Iron Golem/Rust Monster/Mind Flayer (I prefer that over rock/paper/scissors) model and you bring scissors against a rock team you should lose virtually every time (minus big time luck). So any 2 random characters you pick should not necessarily beat any other 2 characters and definitely not easily.But yes, you should definitely be able to form a team with Wasp/Kingpin and beat some other pick 2 teams if the matchup is right. The problem is you just don't get to see those teams because no one is using them and even if a few players are, they make sure to leave out the Colossus/SW team on defense.KGBP.S. And yes, I'm fully aware the gulf between the best and worst characters is too wide (this is true in 3*, 4* as well as 5* land). I agree with this. I was using those characters as examples, you've stated my argument more clearly and generally than I did. This doesn’t correspond to my PvP experience. I see some, but I mostly see boosted characters and Shang-Chi with Valkyrie/Chavez especially above 800 pts after the first day. Occasionally, BRB and Polaris but that is mostly at 600pts, which is where they float when I leave those two on defense. If I can get to 1000 points I hop off various Shang-Chi, Okoye teams worth 75 pts that are pretty obviously shield hopping themselves.
entrailbucket said: Why isn't it fair to compare them? Does Shang-Chi have more stars? Is he newer, so he's better due to power creep?
HoundofShadow said: I tested Abigail, Odin and Wanda and it's fine. The amount of banners popping up is crazy. I replaced Wanda with Lizard and it was much better. Lizard creates 4 repeater tiles, and self fortifies them every single turn. This in turn helps Odin to create his cds that heal his allies and turn their builds to 5/5/5 and then creates strike tiles, and it also triggers Abigail's team heal thrice. On top of that, he turns blue tiles into red tiles, and many times, he creates free matches. Lizard/Odin > Wanda/Odin.