What's New MPQ (August 23, 2021)

Theghouse said:

fractalvisions said:

Theghouse said:

MackDan1 said:

If you are not creating new 3* characters, could you please stop making us use 3* characters as the center character in pvp? They are pretty much useless now and we have over 100 4* characters that should rotate in pvp instead of 3s. I realize that it's probably for the newer players with growing rosters. Maybe we could have an option to choose which route to go, like we do when we select our SCL. Once you choose 8 or above we get a 4* as the center character. Just a thought.

The continued dilution of the 4* tier, combined with the gigantic iso costs to champ them all, would make 4* only PVP a huge competition gap between older rosters and newer rosters. 

Even if newer rosters are playing highly competitively in top alliances in both PVE and PVP and spending on the game, they will have a harder time catching up to the vet rosters that have completed nearly every 4* as a new release and kept up with 5* releases to have a giant network of champ rewards as well.  Plenty of players playing SCL 8 or above have less than half of the 4* champed, with the extreme dilution now some SCL 8 and 9 players have not even collected the entire tier yet.

Old rosters already get a natural advantage, the earlier you started playing the easier it was to collect 4* and 5* and the more champ levels you collected. Now old rosters get an additional gigantic advantage with boosted 5*, which again favors those who had an easier time collecting older characters with less dilution in the tiers.

We don't need another reason for newer rosters to give up on the game because they can't compete and have literally no means to beat dilution to get to a competitive level.

How often are newer rosters competing with old rosters? Surely the old rosters are mostly just competing among themselves. I'm unconvinced that this would put off newer players. It would be an opportunity to try out 4* that they don't already have and rarely play against. As MackDan says, what's the point in having all these characters if we rarely use them? 

Also, I suspect the vast majority of SCL 8 & 9 players have less than half the 4* champed. I'm almost eligible for SCL 10 and I only have 36 of the champed. But I see no reason why that should put us off having a more varied PVP.

In current MMR conditions a player with a couple of brand new 5* champs at 450 and only half the 4* tier champed at 270 will match with a vet with all 5* champs ranging 450-470 and all 4* tier 320-370. 

Keep in mind that MMR does not take into account boost levels, only base levels, so not only will a large portion of the required 4*s have the potential to be outgunned by 200-300 levels by older rosters with similar MMR, but their few 5*s are also likely to be outgunned by 120-150 levels by older rosters with 5* characters on the boost list each week.  And around 900 pts is when MMR breaks and everybody is fair game to the 550s.

So those smaller rosters who are actually playing PVP for more than just the daily milestone reward or smaller progression rewards, and especially those trying to earn event placement or season rewards, end up being matched up with larger rosters quite frequently.

TheEyeDoctorsWife said:

With Meet R&G next week, the entire classic 5* has gone full circle , with the exception of the 13 new 5* characters since the cycle began . Does anyone know where or how these new characters are added, at the end , mixed in next cycle , or a combination of both ? Trying to plan ahead a little , thanks .

HoundofShadow said:

We just had Webbed Wonders the first week of this month. So, it looks more like a copy and paste error. However, I noticed that BFF is giving Howard the Duck as placement rewards. Currently, we are at 4* characters whose names begin with 'S' for rewards. Is this a first for non-anniversary week? Maybe Webbed Wonders is the first pve testbed to roll out some tweaks or changes?


Thanks for bringing back Best Friends Forever. It feels like a long time since I last played them. BFF = Pick-2 PvP.

Evergreen is another pvp I'm looking to play again. The dev can extend this concept to other colours like Passionate Red, Black Despair, Hopeful Yellow etc.