krakenoon said:In summation, I think we’re mostly meh about the buffs and not surprised, but unhappy with the heavy handedness of the nerfs. Oh yeah, and give us a test server.
Nibby said: Why did they ask us, whether we wanted nerfs or buffs, if they don't listen anyway. A look at the poll shows that most users wanted buffs...What we got is a few minor buffs that no one cares about and Bishop and Worthy Captain destroyed. I would really have preferred a new character that counters Bishop /Worthy, instead of taking away powers. All the time we spent into leveling up these characters are now wasted.
Jacklag said: Nibby said: Why did they ask us, whether we wanted nerfs or buffs, if they don't listen anyway. A look at the poll shows that most users wanted buffs...What we got is a few minor buffs that no one cares about and Bishop and Worthy Captain destroyed. I would really have preferred a new character that counters Bishop /Worthy, instead of taking away powers. All the time we spent into leveling up these characters are now wasted. To be fair, if they had released a character that counters Bishop and Worthy Captain, your time leveling those characters would have been wasted too. And you wouldn't be getting a sellback option.
Vhailorx said: Jacklag said: Nibby said: Why did they ask us, whether we wanted nerfs or buffs, if they don't listen anyway. A look at the poll shows that most users wanted buffs...What we got is a few minor buffs that no one cares about and Bishop and Worthy Captain destroyed. I would really have preferred a new character that counters Bishop /Worthy, instead of taking away powers. All the time we spent into leveling up these characters are now wasted. To be fair, if they had released a character that counters Bishop and Worthy Captain, your time leveling those characters would have been wasted too. And you wouldn't be getting a sellback option. You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too.
ThaRoadWarrior said: Vhailorx said: Jacklag said: Nibby said: Why did they ask us, whether we wanted nerfs or buffs, if they don't listen anyway. A look at the poll shows that most users wanted buffs...What we got is a few minor buffs that no one cares about and Bishop and Worthy Captain destroyed. I would really have preferred a new character that counters Bishop /Worthy, instead of taking away powers. All the time we spent into leveling up these characters are now wasted. To be fair, if they had released a character that counters Bishop and Worthy Captain, your time leveling those characters would have been wasted too. And you wouldn't be getting a sellback option. You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too. I would contest that de-fanging Bishop makes Apocalypse any less good. He also sidesteps the BRB/Kitty meta and is generally quite strong.
Vhailorx said: You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too.
BriMan2222 said: Vhailorx said: You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too. Apocolypse is one of my most used characters in both pve and pvp and bishop is the least of the reason that I use him. Being able to hit bishop teams in pvp a bit more easily was just the cherry on top, but I'll gladly just not have to deal with bishop at all.
Vhailorx said: BriMan2222 said: Vhailorx said: You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too. Apocolypse is one of my most used characters in both pve and pvp and bishop is the least of the reason that I use him. Being able to hit bishop teams in pvp a bit more easily was just the cherry on top, but I'll gladly just not have to deal with bishop at all. But using your analogy, a cake that formerly had a cherry is now bare. That's a net loss, even if it is a small one and you still want to eat the cake.
BriMan2222 said: Vhailorx said: BriMan2222 said: Vhailorx said: You know that people chased apoc for exactly this reason, right? At least apoc will retain some value in a post bishop world, but this is also a small indirect nerf for him too. Apocolypse is one of my most used characters in both pve and pvp and bishop is the least of the reason that I use him. Being able to hit bishop teams in pvp a bit more easily was just the cherry on top, but I'll gladly just not have to deal with bishop at all. But using your analogy, a cake that formerly had a cherry is now bare. That's a net loss, even if it is a small one and you still want to eat the cake. But without bishop, there's no need for the cherry. I don't know how to add anymore to the analogy.... stun immunity is still good without bishop being around, it's just not so much of a necessity.