atomzed said: when you say both you and your friend have enough CP to champ apocalypse, are you referring to when he hits the LT (probably in 2 weeks time) or when he is about to leave LT? Generally, the advice would be to look at the trio in latest legendary. Do you like all 3 of them? How does it complement your roster? For example, if you don’t like IHulk, you can always wait for IHulk to leave LT before you pull for apocalypse. Or you can wait for the next 5* to be announced before you decide whether you want to pull. For you, I think apocalypse will be a good addition to your roster of Oko and BRB. I think the more pertinent question is whether you want IHulk. IHulk and Oko will make a good partner too. My suggestion is to wait for the next 5* to be announced before you decide whether you want to spend your hoard. Don’t let apocalypse be the sole deciding factor.
fight4thedream said: @Akroma In the case of your friend, Apocalypse is a good 5* to start out with. High health, his powers work well together, and he does a lot of damage. For PvP, he will be useful against Beta/Kitty teams. Hopefully the next set of 5* characters have some synergy with him but in the event that they don't, he can always pair him with Bishop. In your case, if you are looking at Apocalypse as a third wheel for your Okoye/Thor combo for PvE then I think you will be a bit disappointed. Not that he will be bad, it's just Sabertooth does more for the AP your team will be using than Apocalypse. Consider: Apocalypse's black requires protect tiles in order to do damage. Assuming you use yellow to heal Okoye and generate TU tiles, you will have to use his black twice to get damage from that power. Also don't forget his black will burst heal your lowest health teammate if there are no protect tiles on the board, which risks putting Thor over 50% and shutting down his AP generation.On the other hand, Sabertooth's black does damage on the first go. Additionally Sabertooth's red is one AP less. It might not seem much but it counts if you are going for speed. Finally, Apocalypse's red, black and yellow match damage are higher than Okoye's so you will need to level her higher otherwise Apocalypse will tank some of those colors and Okoye will burn TU tiles. Just to be clear, it's not that Apocalypse is bad but simply Thor/Okoye/Sabertooth is a much more efficient and smoother team.If your concerned about the value of Apocalypse for your roster, it seems he will be more useful for you in PvP. He will go well with Beta, Iceman and Prof X. So if you are looking to increase your team variety for PvP, he will definitely add value there. Just not so much for PvE.
Tony_Foot said: Didn’t take long to go from OMG he’s OP and broken to he ain’t all that. I do like it when the forum gets it completely wrong before even trying a character, Thor is still the funniest example of that.
atomzed said: Tony_Foot said: Didn’t take long to go from OMG he’s OP and broken to he ain’t all that. I do like it when the forum gets it completely wrong before even trying a character, Thor is still the funniest example of that. Don’t forget Kitty too! Everyone underestimated her and she prove us all wrong....
HoundofShadow said: How is Apocalypse/Okoye a threat? Okoye and iHulk is more than enough to be a threat. Apocalypse is probably there to soak damage, provides heal and fire his yellow. Apocalypse can be stunned though.
Akroma said: aww. so now the consensus is that apoc is not so good?
Vhailorx said: Akroma said: aww. so now the consensus is that apoc is not so good? No, he seems good from those who have direct experience with him. He just isn't singularly dominant like Gambit (on release and after his first revision), and that disappoints people who had very high expectations.
Daredevil217 said: He’s perfect for my style of play. Fun, unique, quick, 3 active powers, and plays well with tons of characters. Really really hope I get to champ him. I’m cool with him not being broken but hope he shakes up the meta. Tired of skipping Kitty/BRB, Bishop/BRB over and over looking for a Thorkoye to hit with my fun team combos. I just looked, and I’ve used exactly 30 different 5* characters in Iron Fist’s PVP for example. Apocalypse is the type of character that would get tons of play from me.