y4747 said: *snip*If i were building my 4*s now, i'd probably get 4* carnage to 270 and then start saving covers, expecting him to become a feeder for 5* carnage at some point. maybe i'd do that to other toons that are possible feeders for him, too. you do not want your players holding back roster development.*snip*
A lot of people have been building multiple dupe characters either because they feed a desired character (3 to 4) or they might feed one (4 to 5). Roster spots aren’t free. I’ve got almost 400 roster spots. Each time a new character is released or I am compelled to build a dupe that’s 2000 HP per slot. 10% of a Stark just to roster someone. Before 5 feeders became a thing I had no problem selling off my 370 4’s when another was ready to be champed. Of those I sold were a Medusa, a Kingpin and an XFW. I missed out on 18 5 star covers because I went that route. I wasn’t going to make that mistake again so I’ve been building and hoarding on to dupe 4’s ever since at a steep cost.
The devs/d3/whoever set a standard of how they handled 5 feeders and I adjusted my gameplay and spending accordingly. They’ve gotten the equivalent of $10 for every dupe I’ve built and held on to (not to mention costs 360,000 iso to champ a 4). I stopped counting at 50 dupe 4’s and I wasn’t even past the dupes that were 370. I only built them and held onto them because of the feeder system they put in place and now that they’ve got mine and a lot of player’s money they trash that system.
If I don’t completely stop playing this game (and that is a HUGE IF) and they don’t reimplement the old feeder system and give the players the rewards they EARNED then this game will never see another dime from me or many players like me. With all these dupes of 3, 4, and 5 characters that I have and can now sell without any worry that I will be missing out on something I’ll never have to buy another roster spot again AND get a couple Stark’s out of it in return. Sounds nice but I’d rather have the rewards that I EARNED.
To be even more frank is doesn’t help that you guys exactly built up a lot of good will and trust. Whether it’s the OML nerf, the castration of Gambit and now this your track record isn’t exactly great. It’s hard to commit yourself to this never ending rat race for covers, CP LT’s and ISO when at any given moment you guys will take a break from giving us marvelous toons like 5 Carnage and Talos to destroy toons we do like and wreck a system we were all happy with.
smiley22 said: My situation - as a multi-year VIP paying customer - which echoes someone in a previous post:My 5* Prof X sits at 5-0-5 with 7 saved covers (after 360 LT pulls, HORRIBLE luck). These feeders and shards are supposed to be the solution for this nightmare scenario. Frankly when I pulled those a few weeks ago I was right at the verge of quitting.Then shards are announced - skeptical, but hey, maybe this is a path to resolve my problem! Rollout occurs, less than stellar as expected...So here we are, new feeders!! There’s a light at the end of the tunnel! My 4* Prof X is level 305, that means at least I’ll get the retroactive covers at 280 and 300 and get that progress on a purple cover that has inexplicably evaded me! Rollout occurs, what.the.eff. My 5* Prof X has ANOTHER saved cover and STILL sits at 5-0-5, with a measly 100 shards to show for it. Worst of all, had my 4* been 297 I’d only be a few pulls away, now I’m 15 pulls from any progress at all. I’m left with an awful experience on something that should have been exciting.Long story short, no more VIP or any spending unless they give the retro rewards as anticipated. Ultimately it won’t be much more for me, but it’s the impression that it leaves. I couldn’t care less if some whale with maxed 370s gets 6 covers - good for them they earned it.
froggerjohn said: Several points, and apologies if most of them have been made before.1. Every time characters are added to MPQ, resources are spread thinner, to a wider base. We needed a resource boost just to maintain the same relative progress as what the norm was years ago. You don't need to take stuff away from us to "pay for" the elements you add.2. Feeders are a critical element of being able to complete older 5*s. Many players have been awaiting feeders for a long time. So when you update those feeders, but nerf them into obscurity, you've crippled the ability to complete those characters. Maybe permanently (short of rostering a duplicate 4*). I imagine most players above a certain level would prefer no feeder, with the hope one will still come someday, compared to turning their long-time hopes into a small fraction of their expectations.3. The higher level characters a player has, the more they have been penalized by this update. Some players likely spent money and/or resources preparing for this update, and find themselves in a worse position than had they done nothing. These are really disastrous side-effects, that beg reconsideration.4. There's now incentive to not champ a character that doesn't yet feed another, just to not lose its potential 5* progress.5. Players have an emotional investment in this game. By your design. So it shouldn't be a surprise to have an emotional response to policy choices that negatively impact their experience.6. There have been a lot of good steps recently in MPQ. All of these had the potential to be very positive outcomes, and yet, many of them had quite the opposite response from large numbers of players. And sadly, the reason why they had a negative response is almost exclusively the same factor -- taking something away from us. So I refer back to point #1 above. When you go to all the effort to make things better for us, and we really do appreciate that, please try to reconsider whether such elements really need to be "balanced" by a negative effect that almost certainly evokes player backlash.
marshall said: @KGB A LT is but 15% of a 5* cover, so about 75 shards each, plus 3 per pull. So considering classic pulls on those 60 cps, that's a grand total of 78 * 9 or 702 shards at best. Most of which would be applied on undesirable characters like Banner.Besides as a 1600+ day veteran I've missed out on heaps of later benefits, like saved covers. I'd have full 4*d if I were to get back all my wasted covers. Don't really see how you're the victim here?
cpeyton3535 said: What happened to 3* new feeder rewards?Seems like all the focus was on 4* feeders into 5* rewards. I'm sure many players, particularly newer players, are wondering where the 3* feeder into 4* rewards went. Players with a more advanced roster would have benefited as well, obviously, but honestly it feels like the rewards that would most benefit newer players were ignored.