RickOShay said: Taking a PvP look at Carnage vs a Thorkoye (non-Gritty) team, where the 3* essential does not spam special tiles: Turn 1: Make any match, while prioritizing redTurn 2: No enemy special tiles are out, so Carnage creates 2x 195 enemy attack tiles (assume you can't match them away, and you probably don't want to yet. Black and Red are at cover level 5)Turn 3: Beginning of turn, there's only 2 enemy attack tiles (eAT) are out, so create 2x 195 attacks again (assume you still cannot / don't want to match them yet)Turn 4: If all 4 of these eAT's are present, you now earn a free random match and then create a 322 Strike tile. Now make your own match, but do you want to avoid matching eAT's away? You might, since the Strike tile and a free match may be more valuable than an additional friendly attack tile (fAT).(keep in mind that if the enemy matches away their own attack tiles you will be kept waiting for more to earn the Strike and free match)Turn 5a: Carnage makes another free match if you kept 4x eAT on the board. Did that free match take away an eAT? Or, can you? Yay, Create 1x 168 fAT to compliment the additional Strike tile you now have.Turn 5b: Perhaps you still managed to avoid matching away all eAT's. You will then only have 2x 322 Strikes now.(green must be at cover level 3 if red and black are at level 5)Turn 6: By now you've certainly gotten 6 red AP, right? Well that's fine but you still don't want to fire Blood Fued since you only have 2 or 3 special tiles. The enemy has 3 or 4 attack tiles at the beginning of this turn. So Carnage either creates 2 additional for them for 5 total - or - you earn a free match and a Strike tile. Try to match one away buddy! Even weak attack tiles carry Strike tile damage with them.Turn 7: Did you match one away? Whether you did or not, Carnage is probably earning a free turn here. But, even with the added Strike tiles you may Still have just 3 special tiles out, since things can easily get matched away.. and you are playing with a / 5* Carnage! \ on your team. Now, match that purple attack tile away, that should help a lot!!Turn 8: By now you're learning that it's quite difficult for your 5* Carnage to get 4x friendly specials on the board to fire his cheap red ability to full effect. Did you bring Thor along? That's only 2 active damage abilities unless you run amazingly well on 21 yellow.*Important note: You need to understand the importance of the eAT and fAT acronyms, and that this was written during my lunch break.
BriMan2222 said: Daredevil217 said: Who are your other 5*? I have Thanos, Panther, Dr Strange, Star Lord, Hawkeye, Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider all champed and I have Dare Devil Champable just haven't champed him yet. I also have OML at 5/2/5 and lvl 430In Pvp I usually use Panther and Thanos against Gritty teams and Ghost Rider/Thanos for most other teams. Pve Thanos/panther/dr strange is usually my go to team.
Daredevil217 said: Who are your other 5*?
wymtime said: Daredevil217 said: Vhailorx said: wymtime said: @IceIX I would love to hear about your experience play testing carnage. Most of the comments from this thread are down on carnage. When you play tested him how did you feel he worked well in he 5* tier.also in general are the devs going to go back to some older 5* that are under performing and look to buff some of their stats. I say this because from a 1st impression of Carnage if if each of his powers were just a little stronger he would be a really solid to good 5*. I personally like his mechanics and concepts and feel with a slight buff he would find more use in the game.any additional insight would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to speak for anyone, and i would like any available insight too, but i think we have to recognize that this request puts IceIX in a difficult position. Carnage's value on mpq rosters has a fairly direct link to Demi/d3's financial bottom line. So offering any personal opinion whatsoever is subject to at least an appearance of conflict. (If ice save Carnage is great, can we trust that as anything but marketing hype? And if ice thinks Carnage is wasp-level bad, doesn't saying as much publicly put him in an uncomfortable position, especially before the character is even released? Trash talking your own product before release is not generally the best business strategy). I don’t think “he’s awesome!” or “he’s trash!” is what people are looking for. Whether a true opinion or not, it doesn’t provide much insight. My thought process is that they did extensive testing on the character and obviously think he’s good. If not, I’m sure they would have buffed him. So if they think he’s good and we all think he’s trash, maybe there are some synergies, ways to play him, or opponents he works well against that we’re not seeing. Yes, we have numbers, but they had the opportunity to play him a bunch, and so by virtue of that have a much different experience of the character. I’m not looking for “good” or “bad” feedback. Just honest. What were you going for and do you feel you hit the mark. @Vhailorx I think what Daredevil articulated is more of what I was looking for. I agree with you it might put ice in a tight spot, but I also think when a new character comes out and the initial impression of the character is poor an explanation from a developer on at they were looking to accomplish and how they feel they accomplished it with synergy examples can be good. Even if they came back and said we tried X and it was super OP so we went with Y and gave an explanation would be good communication fro the Dev’s.
Daredevil217 said: Vhailorx said: wymtime said: @IceIX I would love to hear about your experience play testing carnage. Most of the comments from this thread are down on carnage. When you play tested him how did you feel he worked well in he 5* tier.also in general are the devs going to go back to some older 5* that are under performing and look to buff some of their stats. I say this because from a 1st impression of Carnage if if each of his powers were just a little stronger he would be a really solid to good 5*. I personally like his mechanics and concepts and feel with a slight buff he would find more use in the game.any additional insight would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to speak for anyone, and i would like any available insight too, but i think we have to recognize that this request puts IceIX in a difficult position. Carnage's value on mpq rosters has a fairly direct link to Demi/d3's financial bottom line. So offering any personal opinion whatsoever is subject to at least an appearance of conflict. (If ice save Carnage is great, can we trust that as anything but marketing hype? And if ice thinks Carnage is wasp-level bad, doesn't saying as much publicly put him in an uncomfortable position, especially before the character is even released? Trash talking your own product before release is not generally the best business strategy). I don’t think “he’s awesome!” or “he’s trash!” is what people are looking for. Whether a true opinion or not, it doesn’t provide much insight. My thought process is that they did extensive testing on the character and obviously think he’s good. If not, I’m sure they would have buffed him. So if they think he’s good and we all think he’s trash, maybe there are some synergies, ways to play him, or opponents he works well against that we’re not seeing. Yes, we have numbers, but they had the opportunity to play him a bunch, and so by virtue of that have a much different experience of the character. I’m not looking for “good” or “bad” feedback. Just honest. What were you going for and do you feel you hit the mark.
Vhailorx said: wymtime said: @IceIX I would love to hear about your experience play testing carnage. Most of the comments from this thread are down on carnage. When you play tested him how did you feel he worked well in he 5* tier.also in general are the devs going to go back to some older 5* that are under performing and look to buff some of their stats. I say this because from a 1st impression of Carnage if if each of his powers were just a little stronger he would be a really solid to good 5*. I personally like his mechanics and concepts and feel with a slight buff he would find more use in the game.any additional insight would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to speak for anyone, and i would like any available insight too, but i think we have to recognize that this request puts IceIX in a difficult position. Carnage's value on mpq rosters has a fairly direct link to Demi/d3's financial bottom line. So offering any personal opinion whatsoever is subject to at least an appearance of conflict. (If ice save Carnage is great, can we trust that as anything but marketing hype? And if ice thinks Carnage is wasp-level bad, doesn't saying as much publicly put him in an uncomfortable position, especially before the character is even released? Trash talking your own product before release is not generally the best business strategy).
wymtime said: @IceIX I would love to hear about your experience play testing carnage. Most of the comments from this thread are down on carnage. When you play tested him how did you feel he worked well in he 5* tier.also in general are the devs going to go back to some older 5* that are under performing and look to buff some of their stats. I say this because from a 1st impression of Carnage if if each of his powers were just a little stronger he would be a really solid to good 5*. I personally like his mechanics and concepts and feel with a slight buff he would find more use in the game.any additional insight would be greatly appreciated.
bluewolf said: RE: Absolute Carnage's appearance. Has anyone been reading the comic enough to comment on the fact that he looks like he has no abdominal organs? Is it just Cletus Kasady's torso in there since he was once torn apart by Sentry? Just wondering. I read that he has been resurrected (maybe this is the second time) just before the storyline began.
Greenroom said: bluewolf said: RE: Absolute Carnage's appearance. Has anyone been reading the comic enough to comment on the fact that he looks like he has no abdominal organs? Is it just Cletus Kasady's torso in there since he was once torn apart by Sentry? Just wondering. I read that he has been resurrected (maybe this is the second time) just before the storyline began. I read an interview where it was simply the artist's design choice to make him appear even less human. In Carnage USA he has an artificial lower half i assume as a result of the Sentry thing. Ive missed much of the last 10 years of comics but maybe this means Cletus' legs and junk are still floating around in space somewhere.
Thanos said: I was gonna make some Carnage videos but I'm too depressed by how bad he is. A shame cause his artwork is awesome.https://youtu.be/v108212N5nY I think this is the best Carnage video I can make.
wymtime said: Thanos said: I was gonna make some Carnage videos but I'm too depressed by how bad he is. A shame cause his artwork is awesome. I think this is the best Carnage video I can make. That was harsh funny but harsh. did you at least try him first?
Thanos said: I was gonna make some Carnage videos but I'm too depressed by how bad he is. A shame cause his artwork is awesome. I think this is the best Carnage video I can make.
Daredevil217 said: Thanos said: I was gonna make some Carnage videos but I'm too depressed by how bad he is. A shame cause his artwork is awesome. I think this is the best Carnage video I can make. Hahahaha!If you’re taking requests, half heath Daredevil and Doom?