mrhibachi said: As usual, thank you for taking place in this discussion so at least I know someone is reading!Regarding Adapt: I'm hoping you're right but in either case the ability still requires hitting multiple activated gems which isn't easy to do (and would probably require a bunch of turns to do by which point it's inefficient). At least some of the creatures have other effects to make them decent.Regarding Liliana 2: This is Standard only so no Prized Amalgam/Diregraf Colossus. If this were a Legacy ranking she would be higher up (although honestly 95% of planeswalkers can work in Legacy).Regarding Vivien: I tend to rate 'half mana' effects pretty low because it guarantees that the card can't be played without extra mana being added to it unlike 'full mana' or even 'fixed mana'. I agree that her abilities are solid which is why I put her in that tier. I see pretty much no scenario in which I would pick her for an event over Nissa 4 or either of the Vraskas or a good chunk of other strong green planeswalkers and I still don't like the niche aspect of her 2nd abiliity (good luck killing Darigaaz Reincarnated, Lich's Mastery, or Starfield of Nyx for instance). Perhaps the gates make her substantially better but I'll need to playtest that first before deciding.
mrhibachi said: Koth is broken because even though mono red is in a pretty weak spot powerwise his 1st ability is extremely broken. His second and third abilities are pretty good but I wouldn't say they are OP. Feel free to checkout my last article (here) if you want more in depth explanations on any planeswalker.
mrhibachi said: It's a shame to think how bad the original 5 planeswalkers are now. It's crazy to think how broken original nissa, chandra, and jace were. I hope articles like these get read by D3/Oktagon and it convinces them to do some sort of rebalancing.
Mburn7 said: mrhibachi said: It's a shame to think how bad the original 5 planeswalkers are now. It's crazy to think how broken original nissa, chandra, and jace were. I hope articles like these get read by D3/Oktagon and it convinces them to do some sort of rebalancing. Its really funny to see how things changed. Chandra used to be the strongest walker out there, now she is absolute garbage.I wonder if Oktagon should restore their abilities to their pre-nerf levels (Chandra's first costs 3, the first for the rest costs 6), just so that they are somewhat viable in competition.
mrhibachi said: i think jace 1 would still be bad since his 1st is piss poor compared to bolas and ajani and the like (plus creatures are much bigger these days) but yea id like that as well as having the tinykitty "themed planeswalkers" like chandra 2 and arlinn and gideon 2 get reworked outright so they don't complete rely on their sets to be effective