Ed_Dragonrider said: broll said: Also why in the world are these new support stores always showing vs only showing when you have tokens? Making them only show unless you had tokens (or there was some buy option) was genius and a great way to cut down on the ridiculous amount of cluttered screens in the recruit section. I hope that's just a mistake/oversight. I get that you hate supports and everything associated with them, with every fiber of your being, but just no. Invisible stores do not entice or motivate. They do not temp. The 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude is not the best when you actually want people spending and chasing after things.I for one hate being exluded from things. Even things im not yet eligible for. But maybe ask for a toggle or button to help you hide it, if this upsets you so much...
broll said: Also why in the world are these new support stores always showing vs only showing when you have tokens? Making them only show unless you had tokens (or there was some buy option) was genius and a great way to cut down on the ridiculous amount of cluttered screens in the recruit section. I hope that's just a mistake/oversight.
TPF Alexis said: Ed_Dragonrider said: broll said: Also why in the world are these new support stores always showing vs only showing when you have tokens? Making them only show unless you had tokens (or there was some buy option) was genius and a great way to cut down on the ridiculous amount of cluttered screens in the recruit section. I hope that's just a mistake/oversight. I get that you hate supports and everything associated with them, with every fiber of your being, but just no. Invisible stores do not entice or motivate. They do not temp. The 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude is not the best when you actually want people spending and chasing after things.I for one hate being exluded from things. Even things im not yet eligible for. But maybe ask for a toggle or button to help you hide it, if this upsets you so much... What purpose does it serve, tempting, enticing, or motivating us, if there is no way to act on that, no way to purchase those tokens? I can't regularly spend HP, CP, or even actual dollars to take a pull from any of the options in the Supports "Store". It just sits there, reminding me of how rare it is to actually get a token for them.
PuceMoose said: Just pulled my four support circuit tokens:2* Storm2* Wolverine2* Thor2* OBWBlah... I hope they introduce at least one beginner's support token as a reward (maybe the last big pin's reward, instead of a token, you get a beginner support), so you're guaranteed at least one support in the event designed to improve the availability of supports.
Smart80 said: TPF Alexis said: Ed_Dragonrider said: broll said: Also why in the world are these new support stores always showing vs only showing when you have tokens? Making them only show unless you had tokens (or there was some buy option) was genius and a great way to cut down on the ridiculous amount of cluttered screens in the recruit section. I hope that's just a mistake/oversight. I get that you hate supports and everything associated with them, with every fiber of your being, but just no. Invisible stores do not entice or motivate. They do not temp. The 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude is not the best when you actually want people spending and chasing after things.I for one hate being exluded from things. Even things im not yet eligible for. But maybe ask for a toggle or button to help you hide it, if this upsets you so much... What purpose does it serve, tempting, enticing, or motivating us, if there is no way to act on that, no way to purchase those tokens? I can't regularly spend HP, CP, or even actual dollars to take a pull from any of the options in the Supports "Store". It just sits there, reminding me of how rare it is to actually get a token for them. I dont mind being able to see which 16 are featured this month. Unless there is other way to see, please dont make it invisible...
CaptainFreaky said: Honestly even earning via progression one master token (with the new reduced odds) once a month would be quite reasonable.Maybe running this for four weeks and earning one advanced token per week (with sufficient effort) and then one master token every 4 weeks. This would make it more like DDQ and less like another grindy PVE. I understand making supports rare since each one is complete unto itself but is earning the equivalent of one advanced token per week really too much into the economy? I say it's not too much if you want us to become more engaged with supports (well and also improving the support UI).
pheregas said: Don’t forget the wise words of the devs... We are supposed to lose.
TPF Alexis said: Smart80 said: TPF Alexis said: Ed_Dragonrider said: broll said: Also why in the world are these new support stores always showing vs only showing when you have tokens? Making them only show unless you had tokens (or there was some buy option) was genius and a great way to cut down on the ridiculous amount of cluttered screens in the recruit section. I hope that's just a mistake/oversight. I get that you hate supports and everything associated with them, with every fiber of your being, but just no. Invisible stores do not entice or motivate. They do not temp. The 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude is not the best when you actually want people spending and chasing after things.I for one hate being exluded from things. Even things im not yet eligible for. But maybe ask for a toggle or button to help you hide it, if this upsets you so much... What purpose does it serve, tempting, enticing, or motivating us, if there is no way to act on that, no way to purchase those tokens? I can't regularly spend HP, CP, or even actual dollars to take a pull from any of the options in the Supports "Store". It just sits there, reminding me of how rare it is to actually get a token for them. I dont mind being able to see which 16 are featured this month. Unless there is other way to see, please dont make it invisible... That's legit. But it doesn't actually speak to any of the reasons Ed mentioned for them to be there.
1882 said: I think D3go missed a trick with the new support thing! I believe they should have made it like DDQ. But you earn a master support token not a LL on the big one. Seems a lot of work the way they have done it. Imo.
broll said: 1882 said: I think D3go missed a trick with the new support thing! I believe they should have made it like DDQ. But you earn a master support token not a LL on the big one. Seems a lot of work the way they have done it. Imo. They would never do this, for good reason. Support leveling is drastically different than character leveling. You get one 5* for a support and it's maxed, vs taking at least 13 5* covers to be able to max a 5* character (more if you're unlucky with covers). I don't know how many supports there are (because I don't care) but I think it's below 30 and they seem to be adding about 2 per 6 week cycle. If the gave out a master every time you could have every one at 4*s within a year or so, even with the additions (assuming RNG treats you right). You'd also be drowning in RISO with the sell back on dups. The impression I get is this is supposed to be the new carrot in place of adding a new higher tier and if that is the case these should be as difficult if not harder to champ than 5*s otherwise they'll need build a new carrot in a year or so.