All Weirdly Targeting Cards And Abilities

starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
AI targeted his Ral, Izzet Viceroy's 2nd ability at his own creature (in this case, an Errata, the Silencer)

This is probably the same bug we get in every new set where the AI shoots it's own creatures with a variety of damage or removal spells and effects.

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  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,837 Chairperson of the Boards
    .. Like beacon?
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    .. Like beacon?
    Yes, like Beacon Bolt, also a bug.
  • Mburn7Mburn7 Posts: 2,801 Chairperson of the Boards
    starfall said:
    .. Like beacon?
    Yes, like Beacon Bolt, also a bug.
    I don't think its a bug so much as bad coding.  AI has always torched its own creatures.  Every time it is "fixed" the next update wipes it out.  
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    Mburn7 said:
    starfall said:
    .. Like beacon?
    Yes, like Beacon Bolt, also a bug.
    I don't think its a bug so much as bad coding.  AI has always torched its own creatures.  Every time it is "fixed" the next update wipes it out.  
    Yes but beacon bolt is a little deadily as your opponent can now suicide before you finish your objectives
  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,837 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mburn7 said:
    starfall said:
    .. Like beacon?
    Yes, like Beacon Bolt, also a bug.
    I don't think its a bug so much as bad coding.  AI has always torched its own creatures.  Every time it is "fixed" the next update wipes it out.  
    What's the difference between a bug and bad code?
  • Mburn7Mburn7 Posts: 2,801 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mburn7 said:
    starfall said:
    .. Like beacon?
    Yes, like Beacon Bolt, also a bug.
    I don't think its a bug so much as bad coding.  AI has always torched its own creatures.  Every time it is "fixed" the next update wipes it out.  
    What's the difference between a bug and bad code?
    How I see it is a bug is something happening that isn't supposed to, and bad code is something that is working correctly, but not the way it should.

    If the AI is programmed to target the creature with the highest power (for example) with a kill spell and it kills its own creature with it, that isn't a bug.  Its just bad coding that you allowed that to be an option.
  • SzamszielSzamsziel Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker
    There is even more funny thing with Ral - if there are no creatures on board ai target it's ultimate ... To himself . This was in tg (so ai is a bit nerfed) but it was hilarious. I wish I make popcorn earlier.
  • thesmallesthumanthesmallesthuman Posts: 52 Match Maker
    Yeah there seems to be zero differentiation in the coding for buff/burn/kill effects as far as what Greg will do with them. It’s incredibly common to watch him kill his own guys, he’s saved my neck plenty of times that way. I’ve watched H2 use her second ability on one of my creatures more than once, I’ve been kindly gifted all sorts of buffs.

    Greg’s a hot hot mess but he’s also a real generous dude sometimes and I dig it.
  • only1wolzonly1wolz Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    Greg?

    The reference is lost upon me. 

    Anyone know when he'll be available again and what his cost is? I bought the Niv Mizzet package and the jumpstart pack and I'm using him now with broken Jace which is working just fine but really want to use Ral.
  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,837 Chairperson of the Boards
    Greg is the name the community gave the AI for some reasons.

    For rai.. I'd expect him not sooner than in four weeks.

    By the way, @Mburn7 your explanation makes sense, but it appears to me just as two kinds of bugs.
    As far as I know, spells and abilities have some kind of a marker that's either positive or negative. They get mixed up a looot and the devs might never care to fix it.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    AI also targets Ultimate Price at his own creatures
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards

    By the way, @Mburn7 your explanation makes sense, but it appears to me just as two kinds of bugs. 
    As far as I know, spells and abilities have some kind of a marker that's either positive or negative. They get mixed up a looot and the devs might never care to fix it.
    It's not really so much about fixing it as it is about remembering to set it when new cards and effects are implemented, and that is about best practice.
  • TombstoneTombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,105 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hi everyone, this issue is currently under investigation. I'll add it to the bug list for reference. 
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hiya, the bug also applies to Unexplained Disappearance
  • TombstoneTombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,105 Chairperson of the Boards
    @starfall Thanks! I'll pass this along as well. 
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    Something related happened with Price of Fame.

    I had 2 creatures in play: Hanna, Ship's Navigator, and a stack of 3 Angel tokens (12/12)

    AI cast Price of Fame at Hanna. That's not a terrible play.

    AI then cast a second Price of Fame in the same turn at his own Blood Operative instead of killing my Angels.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    In a related issue: AI played Bounty of Might targeting my creature. (He had no creatures of his own in play)
  • Larz70Larz70 Posts: 56 Match Maker
    Must be Christmas.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,418 Chairperson of the Boards
    AI just used a Dream Eater to bounce itself.
  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,837 Chairperson of the Boards
    Maybe we should make a thread to identify all weird targeting cards?
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