KGB said: jamesh said: Brigby said: whitecat31 said: Will the overclocked passives bounce back? You do damage to the opposing teams team mate. Bishop takes damage, and sends his damage back. Your bishop intervenes and sends damage back to the opposing bishop who is now in front and he gains 5 blue AP from General reserves? Correction: Bishop's Passive does trigger the enemy Bishop's Passive, and vice versa. Does it trigger immediately (e.g. like Captain Marvel's Energy Manipulation), or does it wait until the start of your turn (e.g. like Mockingbird's Opportunist)?If it is immediate, the first versus event is going to be interesting. Once one of the two low level loaner Bishops hits the threshold, their Overclocked attack will trigger Overclocked in the enemy Bishop, ping-ponging within the same turn until one of them dies. At the same time, they'd both be generating blue AP.It'll be less crazy if the Overclocked attack waits until the start of the player's turn since that would let the player cancel out the enemy attack with a stun. I don't think the Red ping-pongs until one Bishop is dead.The way I read the Red is that it only activates when a team mate would take damage and he jumps in front to absorb it similar to how 3* deadpool works. So what happens is Team X fires a power against Team Y with Bishop not in front. Team Y Bishop jumps to front, eats the damage and deals damage to Team X. If Team X has Bishop in front then his Blue passive activates and that's it. If team X has a non-Bishop in front then Team X Bishop jumps to front and eats the retal damage and deals his own retal damage to Team Y Bishop. But it all ends there since both Bishops are in front (Note it's possible the Blue passive will trigger on both Bishops so both teams would generate Blue AP but they may not allow that double dipping if the Red passive activates).KGB
jamesh said: Brigby said: whitecat31 said: Will the overclocked passives bounce back? You do damage to the opposing teams team mate. Bishop takes damage, and sends his damage back. Your bishop intervenes and sends damage back to the opposing bishop who is now in front and he gains 5 blue AP from General reserves? Correction: Bishop's Passive does trigger the enemy Bishop's Passive, and vice versa. Does it trigger immediately (e.g. like Captain Marvel's Energy Manipulation), or does it wait until the start of your turn (e.g. like Mockingbird's Opportunist)?If it is immediate, the first versus event is going to be interesting. Once one of the two low level loaner Bishops hits the threshold, their Overclocked attack will trigger Overclocked in the enemy Bishop, ping-ponging within the same turn until one of them dies. At the same time, they'd both be generating blue AP.It'll be less crazy if the Overclocked attack waits until the start of the player's turn since that would let the player cancel out the enemy attack with a stun.
Brigby said: whitecat31 said: Will the overclocked passives bounce back? You do damage to the opposing teams team mate. Bishop takes damage, and sends his damage back. Your bishop intervenes and sends damage back to the opposing bishop who is now in front and he gains 5 blue AP from General reserves? Correction: Bishop's Passive does trigger the enemy Bishop's Passive, and vice versa.
whitecat31 said: Will the overclocked passives bounce back? You do damage to the opposing teams team mate. Bishop takes damage, and sends his damage back. Your bishop intervenes and sends damage back to the opposing bishop who is now in front and he gains 5 blue AP from General reserves?
Brigby said: Thanos said: Brigby Will he make it into next seasons tokens? My guess is that it's too close to the start of the next season for Bishop to make it into tokens in time.
Thanos said: Brigby Will he make it into next seasons tokens?
WEBGAS said: Once in 5stars land, every 4stars new release is pratically useless.Beside Cap.Marvel, medusa, Grocket+Gamora and Chavez, you won't use any of all the others unless they are essential in some PVE nodes.If Bishop has been made as a 5stars character, he could have been great, but as a 4stars....
gentgeen said: Of those 17 new characters, ONLY Nebula does not have a passive. The trend of Passive is really getting old IMHO -- and the number of passives added on like Bishop's that basically give the character a 4th power also seems to be running rampid. At least in the past the benefit of a passive was countered with the LOSS of one of the 3 power.
JSP869 said: Brigby said: General Reserves - PassiveWith every injury, Bishop grows stronger. If Bishop takes 451 or more damage, gain 5 Blue AP. A 5* deals this much in match damage alone.Can the passive proc multiple times off one cascade?If so, that's ploughing OP.
Brigby said: General Reserves - PassiveWith every injury, Bishop grows stronger. If Bishop takes 451 or more damage, gain 5 Blue AP.
jamesh said: KGB said: jamesh said: Brigby said: whitecat31 said: Will the overclocked passives bounce back? You do damage to the opposing teams team mate. Bishop takes damage, and sends his damage back. Your bishop intervenes and sends damage back to the opposing bishop who is now in front and he gains 5 blue AP from General reserves? Correction: Bishop's Passive does trigger the enemy Bishop's Passive, and vice versa. Does it trigger immediately (e.g. like Captain Marvel's Energy Manipulation), or does it wait until the start of your turn (e.g. like Mockingbird's Opportunist)?If it is immediate, the first versus event is going to be interesting. Once one of the two low level loaner Bishops hits the threshold, their Overclocked attack will trigger Overclocked in the enemy Bishop, ping-ponging within the same turn until one of them dies. At the same time, they'd both be generating blue AP.It'll be less crazy if the Overclocked attack waits until the start of the player's turn since that would let the player cancel out the enemy attack with a stun. I don't think the Red ping-pongs until one Bishop is dead.The way I read the Red is that it only activates when a team mate would take damage and he jumps in front to absorb it similar to how 3* deadpool works. So what happens is Team X fires a power against Team Y with Bishop not in front. Team Y Bishop jumps to front, eats the damage and deals damage to Team X. If Team X has Bishop in front then his Blue passive activates and that's it. If team X has a non-Bishop in front then Team X Bishop jumps to front and eats the retal damage and deals his own retal damage to Team Y Bishop. But it all ends there since both Bishops are in front (Note it's possible the Blue passive will trigger on both Bishops so both teams would generate Blue AP but they may not allow that double dipping if the Red passive activates).KGB That isn't how I read the power description. To me, it looks like there are two independent parts of this ability:If an ally would take damage above a threshold, Bishop is targeted instead.Once Bishop accumulates a certain amount of damage, he makes his own attack.There's nothing in the power description that indicates (2) won't account for damage while he's already in front.As for things going crazy in the release PVP tournament, it looks like it won't ping-pong for players using the loaner: with a single red cover, Overclocked only deals half the threshold damage. It's only when you have 4+ red covers before you deal more damage than the attack threshold.It could be quite different if they redo the tournament later once people have had a chance to champ the character.
Rosraf said: Hmmm. Just like with XFDP, his retaliation hits will get hugely disproportionate when teamed with Okoye. And if Bishop and XFDP are on the same team, they will BOTH retaliate on any big hits. Lastly, his stun is good, but also use him to tank for Iceman and seem like you will get stuns and snowman punches real cheap, really fast.