Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?!
madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger.
Brigby said: Event ChangesTrial of the PlanesChanged the Booster Reward: M19 to GRN.
Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it.
or... disable the creature or creatures.
The wording states, "at the end of your turn, if you control 1 or more creatures and if your opponent lost life this turn, reinforce this support and your opponent loses X life, where X is the number of reinforcements of this support.
This support has two requirements that must be met.
Gunmix25 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. or... disable the creature or creatures. The wording states, "at the end of your turn, if you control 1 or more creatures and if your opponent lost life this turn, reinforce this support and your opponent loses X life, where X is the number of reinforcements of this support.This support has two requirements that must be met.
Now that players are able to see the graveyard, a couple of rule changes were necessary to help clarify and simplify its use.
– Tokens and Copies will never be sent to the graveyard. Instead, they will be removed from the game. It’s not exiled, it’s removed from the game, as if they never existed."
stikxs said: @Brigby When you view jumpstart cards in your new graveyard view, can you see how much mana has already been given to them from exiling?
Mburn7 said: Gunmix25 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. or... disable the creature or creatures. The wording states, "at the end of your turn, if you control 1 or more creatures and if your opponent lost life this turn, reinforce this support and your opponent loses X life, where X is the number of reinforcements of this support.This support has two requirements that must be met. With how that is worded I would assume that any sort of damage will trigger it, not necessarily combat damage. Therefore, disabling the creatures may not work (not like there is a lot of ping stuff in GB, but there is definitely some)
khurram said: Mburn7 said: Gunmix25 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. or... disable the creature or creatures. The wording states, "at the end of your turn, if you control 1 or more creatures and if your opponent lost life this turn, reinforce this support and your opponent loses X life, where X is the number of reinforcements of this support.This support has two requirements that must be met. With how that is worded I would assume that any sort of damage will trigger it, not necessarily combat damage. Therefore, disabling the creatures may not work (not like there is a lot of ping stuff in GB, but there is definitely some) It says and not or. I think it's reasonable to assume that you have to meet both conditions.You slip in your excitement.
ElfNeedsFood said:Does the mana "overflow" from one Jump-started card to the next? For example, if I exile a card with 10 mana and the first Jump-start card requires 5 mana, with the next 5 mana hit the second Jump-start card?
Tilwin90 said: (I'm thinking here in particular at Apex of Power which could power up jumpstart cards)
fiirst said: Brigby said:Event ChangesTrial of the PlanesChanged the Booster Reward: M19 to GRN.Wow! we will get GRN boosters from both Totp & RT events, right?
Brigby said:Event ChangesTrial of the PlanesChanged the Booster Reward: M19 to GRN.
stikxs said: Brigby When you view jumpstart cards in your new graveyard view, can you see how much mana has already been given to them from exiling?
Magagumo said: Brigby Question on the change to creature tokens and not gong to the graveyard. (From Guilds of Ravnica Update):"Tokens, Copies, Reinforcements and the GraveyardNow that players are able to see the graveyard, a couple of rule changes were necessary to help clarify and simplify its use.– Tokens and Copies will never be sent to the graveyard. Instead, they will be removed from the game. It’s not exiled, it’s removed from the game, as if they never existed."Is this going to result in a Nerf to Angrath's 3rd ability, or will he be modified to still do damage when an opponent's creature tokens die? I really like him as a counter to ramp/combo decks, which often rely on Treasure (Storm the Vault), Wishes, and then lots of zombie tokens to kill you. I'd hate to suddenly have that removed because tokens (and maybe created supports?) no longer count as entering the graveyard.Thanks in advance.
Mburn7 said: stikxs said: Brigby When you view jumpstart cards in your new graveyard view, can you see how much mana has already been given to them from exiling? Ooh, +1 to this. I didn't think of that either.Also, can you disable a Jump Start spell in your graveyard, or do all of them have a confirmation box?
Brigby said: Tilwin90 said: (I'm thinking here in particular at Apex of Power which could power up jumpstart cards) Unfortunately when I used Apex of Power to exile cards from my hand, it did not cause the mana to go to the Jump-start cards in my Graveyard.
khurram said:
Mburn7 said: Gunmix25 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. or... disable the creature or creatures. The wording states, "at the end of your turn, if you control 1 or more creatures and if your opponent lost life this turn, reinforce this support and your opponent loses X life, where X is the number of reinforcements of this support.This support has two requirements that must be met. With how that is worded I would assume that any sort of damage will trigger it, not necessarily combat damage. Therefore, disabling the creatures may not work (not like there is a lot of ping stuff in GB, but there is definitely some) It says and not or. I think it's reasonable to assume that you have to meet both conditions.You slip in your excitement.
Kinesia said: Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. Not quite... It's just a change in playstyle when it's out...Some planeswalkers you can just ignore and do what your deck does but there are a few where you have to change your style sometimes playing them:
madwren said: Kinesia said: Mburn7 said: madwren said: Tilwin90 said: Her ultimate is plain stupid. First, it costs the same as her second ability, what?! Then you practically can't remove it with anything (save for River's Rebuke that bounces?). And then the effect keeps growing and growing and there's nothing you can do about it?! Well, you could kill her creatures so that the effect doesn't trigger. Ah, the old "Dies to Removal" argument. I love it. Not quite... It's just a change in playstyle when it's out...Some planeswalkers you can just ignore and do what your deck does but there are a few where you have to change your style sometimes playing them: Right. The fact it's indestructible is a pretty major change, but at least it can be turned off (even if temporarily). I think it's pretty clever, really. I guess we couldn't really expect we'd get an ultimate the same as the paper version. I am a bit disappointed in her other abilities, though.
Brigby said: There is no way to disable a Jump-start spell in your Graveyard. A confirmation prompt will appear each turn.
There is no way to disable a Jump-start spell in your Graveyard. A confirmation prompt will appear each turn.