Shintok17 said: Google.
Twysta said: Try this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddGOyTxfGSY
ThaRoadWarrior said:http://comicsalliance.com/cable-comics-marvel-history/
ThaRoadWarrior said: http://comicsalliance.com/cable-comics-marvel-history/
Banquetto said: ThaRoadWarrior said: http://comicsalliance.com/cable-comics-marvel-history/ Haha, good (and entertaining!) summary.The one thing I'd add is that when Cable was first created and introduced into the comics, nobody had thought up any of this. He was just "big guy with big guns" who would lead the New Mutants, and be a gung-ho action-oriented counterpoint to Charles Xavier's more thoughtful leadership of the X-Men. He was "Commander X" to Charles' "Professor X".Everything about him being Scott Summers' kid was dreamed up later.
DAZ0273 said: Banquetto said: ThaRoadWarrior said: http://comicsalliance.com/cable-comics-marvel-history/ Haha, good (and entertaining!) summary.The one thing I'd add is that when Cable was first created and introduced into the comics, nobody had thought up any of this. He was just "big guy with big guns" who would lead the New Mutants, and be a gung-ho action-oriented counterpoint to Charles Xavier's more thoughtful leadership of the X-Men. He was "Commander X" to Charles' "Professor X".Everything about him being Scott Summers' kid was dreamed up later. The basic proof of that can be found in Uncanny X-Men Annual 14 - Cable and baby Christopher Nathan Summers in the same comic book and not the slightest inclination that the two were linked. ...
Yepyep said: DAZ0273 said: Banquetto said: ThaRoadWarrior said: http://comicsalliance.com/cable-comics-marvel-history/ Haha, good (and entertaining!) summary.The one thing I'd add is that when Cable was first created and introduced into the comics, nobody had thought up any of this. He was just "big guy with big guns" who would lead the New Mutants, and be a gung-ho action-oriented counterpoint to Charles Xavier's more thoughtful leadership of the X-Men. He was "Commander X" to Charles' "Professor X".Everything about him being Scott Summers' kid was dreamed up later. The basic proof of that can be found in Uncanny X-Men Annual 14 - Cable and baby Christopher Nathan Summers in the same comic book and not the slightest inclination that the two were linked. ... I'm totally fine with this, myself; I think it's fun -- but it is part of what makes it so hard to learn up fast on comics backstories. If nothing else, comics are soap operas and wowzers the stories get convoluted.Thinking critically, there are definite similarities between the MCU and Tolstoy's big books, like War and Peace and Anna Karenina. The language and syntactic structure aren't especially complex, so they're pretty easy to read, and the "chapters" are short so you can make regular progress in short bursts over a long period of time. BUT there are scores, maybe even hundreds, of well-delineated characters acting out complex, epic histories and manifesting, along the way as humans will, an incredibly intricate social context with a freaking Persian carpet of interweaving threads of relationships and backstories. Beautiful, intriguing, and daunting...
Dormammu said: Poor Rob. The visuals of these characters (Deadpool, Cable) have stood the test of time after being created in an era of time many comic publishers would like to forget. Rob L. had a lot more to do with Cable than people give him credit for. No, he wasn't the writer for New Mutants and no, he didn't come up with the idea for Cable's back story, but Rob did have input into Cable's personality and leadership style that was then written into the book. The artist has a huge impact, in a visual medium like comic books, on the ways characters come across and the personalities they develop.A lot of the popular artists to come out of the 90s came up with character ideas well beyond what the costume looked like and passed those ideas to the writer. These things (when done right) are a hand-in-hand collaboration between writer and penciler. Their dissatisfaction of the credit they received was one of the reasons (among many) they all jumped ship and formed Image.I don't like it when an artist's impact on character creation is devalued because they didn't have anything to do with what was written into the character years later, especially when the artist has no control over said character (which is always the case at Marvel). To me, that's like saying John Romita Sr. didn't help create Luke Cage because of all the blaxploitation history of the character was retconned years later. No, Romita helped create Power Man just like Leifeld helped create Cable.
ThaRoadWarrior said: I was reading X-Force from #1 back in the day, and Cable was definitely From The Future by that time, though it seemed like they were just angling for a Wolverine mystery box in those days. Of course we had the introduction of Bishop around then too, who had come to the past John Conner style to prevent whoever killed the X-Men in the future from doing it in the past. It was intimated at the time it was Gambit, but I think I fell off of comics before all that got resolved. So people from the future who had Agendas We Weren't Privvy To were sort of en vogue at the time. Also then we got that Stryfe storyline, and maybe they were brothers or clones or something? I definitely didn't get to the end of that. #ComicsEverybodyOne of my favorite time wasting things to do is got to mainstream wikipedia and look up articles about any comic character who has been around for more than 10 years. It always leads off with a very clear, sensical description of their origin, then quickly devolves into "and then this happened, and that happened, but somebody else was there, and suddenly the entire galaxy was a zombie, but then everything got reset and it was fine" all jumbled together. Try it, it's fun. For instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider
Late 80’s guide to Cable:
1.) Let’s introduce a new character to be a leader for the New Mutants. Now what will he be like?
2.) Did you read Dark Knight Returns? Wasn’t it so grim! Hey – new guy - is he grim? How do we know? Uhm…Batman isn’t an X-Man is he? I know: Use Wolverine as a benchmark.
3.) Is he mysterious? Check! As mysterious as Wolverine? Yup! Although, y’know he is kind’a big, has a metal arm and a glowy eye…you would figure somebody has met this guy before right?
4.) Wolverine! Does he know him, presumably, mysteriously so? Yes.
5.) How does Wolverine know him? It’s a mystery. So how come Wolverine never mentioned this guy to Prof X before?
6.) Shall we just have them fight anyway?
7.) Done.