Brigby said: Hi Everyone. We're glad that you're enjoying having both Standard and Legacy Training Grounds running at the same time, however I'm afraid this was in fact a happy mistake.Unfortunately we're still unable to have both events running at the same time moving forward. This is due to the event/server infrastructure still having not reached a level yet where the team is comfortable with having both events run at the same time each day alongside other events.They are certainly working on it though, as the the team does hope that this can be the case at some point in the future.
boopers said: Brigby said: Hi Everyone. We're glad that you're enjoying having both Standard and Legacy Training Grounds running at the same time, however I'm afraid this was in fact a happy mistake.Unfortunately we're still unable to have both events running at the same time moving forward. This is due to the event/server infrastructure still having not reached a level yet where the team is comfortable with having both events run at the same time each day alongside other events.They are certainly working on it though, as the the team does hope that this can be the case at some point in the future.This is doesn’t make much sense to me. While I think we are all very appreciative of octagon looking out for the server stress (no one wants buggy events), they are currently running AI, TG, TG, and EC (all PvP) events plus OTG. I’ve not noticed any issues at all. Maybe the team team could try to keep doing this dual TG during times when there is no active coalition events (mid-week) as a compromise and to gather performance data? I don’t seem to recall nearly as many server issues during non-coalition events. Maybe an idea to float with them... just try it. If it breaks something, go back to the conservative plan till further notice. We’ll understand.
Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day.
Firinmahlazer said: Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day. It sounds to me like you don't actually care about "testing your decks" and really just want the rewards that TG gives. And I'd be willing to bet that's why most people beg for 2 TG.
madwren said: Firinmahlazer said: Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day. It sounds to me like you don't actually care about "testing your decks" and really just want the rewards that TG gives. And I'd be willing to bet that's why most people beg for 2 TG. It sounds to me like you're assuming that everyone's lying about why they want multiple Training Grounds despite the lengthy, and frequent, history of the request. Please don't underestimate the frustration of people who want to test Standard decks and are forced to do so in either the Legacy TG meat grinder, or in the test-skewing AX with its fiddly node effects. Now that we actually have some relevant Legacy events, this is compounded--leading up to the last Legacy HoD, it was pretty irritating that TotP was the only Legacy testing ground available. That's great if you want to test against Deploy-HUF, Omniscience, or Imminent Doom for a handful of non-refreshing games, but worthless beyond that. Regardless, if the Powers that Be were actually concerned about 15 additional crystals, they could easily just make a rune-only second TG.
Firinmahlazer said: madwren said: Firinmahlazer said: Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day. It sounds to me like you don't actually care about "testing your decks" and really just want the rewards that TG gives. And I'd be willing to bet that's why most people beg for 2 TG. It sounds to me like you're assuming that everyone's lying about why they want multiple Training Grounds despite the lengthy, and frequent, history of the request. Please don't underestimate the frustration of people who want to test Standard decks and are forced to do so in either the Legacy TG meat grinder, or in the test-skewing AX with its fiddly node effects. Now that we actually have some relevant Legacy events, this is compounded--leading up to the last Legacy HoD, it was pretty irritating that TotP was the only Legacy testing ground available. That's great if you want to test against Deploy-HUF, Omniscience, or Imminent Doom for a handful of non-refreshing games, but worthless beyond that. Regardless, if the Powers that Be were actually concerned about 15 additional crystals, they could easily just make a rune-only second TG. The lengthy and frequent history here is one of complaining and asking for hand outs. So yeah I do assume the request for and additional TG is really just a request for an easy 15 crystals a day. When I play Legacy TG and get bombed by Omniscience, HUF/Deploy, and Koth decks full of fat mythics I feel like I'm making a fair argument. They didn't remove legacy TG. God forbid we might have to wait a day if something is in dire need of "testing". Patience is a virtue.
Mburn7 said: Firinmahlazer said: madwren said: Firinmahlazer said: Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day. It sounds to me like you don't actually care about "testing your decks" and really just want the rewards that TG gives. And I'd be willing to bet that's why most people beg for 2 TG. It sounds to me like you're assuming that everyone's lying about why they want multiple Training Grounds despite the lengthy, and frequent, history of the request. Please don't underestimate the frustration of people who want to test Standard decks and are forced to do so in either the Legacy TG meat grinder, or in the test-skewing AX with its fiddly node effects. Now that we actually have some relevant Legacy events, this is compounded--leading up to the last Legacy HoD, it was pretty irritating that TotP was the only Legacy testing ground available. That's great if you want to test against Deploy-HUF, Omniscience, or Imminent Doom for a handful of non-refreshing games, but worthless beyond that. Regardless, if the Powers that Be were actually concerned about 15 additional crystals, they could easily just make a rune-only second TG. The lengthy and frequent history here is one of complaining and asking for hand outs. So yeah I do assume the request for and additional TG is really just a request for an easy 15 crystals a day. When I play Legacy TG and get bombed by Omniscience, HUF/Deploy, and Koth decks full of fat mythics I feel like I'm making a fair argument. They didn't remove legacy TG. God forbid we might have to wait a day if something is in dire need of "testing". Patience is a virtue. I'm not sure how Omniloop decks prove your point that people are only in it for the rewards, and the rest of your comment is full of even less sound assertions than that. The only thing I agree with is that historically people demand more free stuff. But that doesn't really feel relevant here.We have asked many times since the idea for Standard TG was floated to just have 1 TG per day that you could toggle between standard and legacy whenever you want. If it was just about the rewards, why would we ask for that?And as for waiting an extra day to test a deck, I really don't like that tone (and I am one who usually advocates for patience). If I just pulled or crafted a new mythic I am excited about, I want to play with it now. I don't really want to have to wait and then forget all the fun ideas I had for it. And if there is a legacy event starting today I would really like to be able to test my decks before joining instead of 16 hours after or whatever. Why should I be punished for wanting to test a deck on a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday?
Firinmahlazer said: Mburn7 said: Firinmahlazer said: madwren said: Firinmahlazer said: Gideon said: This happy mistake happens quite often and there is never any issues. Could you please tell them there is nothing to worry about. This sounds like it’s an excuse to not give us 15 additional crystals a day. It sounds to me like you don't actually care about "testing your decks" and really just want the rewards that TG gives. And I'd be willing to bet that's why most people beg for 2 TG. It sounds to me like you're assuming that everyone's lying about why they want multiple Training Grounds despite the lengthy, and frequent, history of the request. Please don't underestimate the frustration of people who want to test Standard decks and are forced to do so in either the Legacy TG meat grinder, or in the test-skewing AX with its fiddly node effects. Now that we actually have some relevant Legacy events, this is compounded--leading up to the last Legacy HoD, it was pretty irritating that TotP was the only Legacy testing ground available. That's great if you want to test against Deploy-HUF, Omniscience, or Imminent Doom for a handful of non-refreshing games, but worthless beyond that. Regardless, if the Powers that Be were actually concerned about 15 additional crystals, they could easily just make a rune-only second TG. The lengthy and frequent history here is one of complaining and asking for hand outs. So yeah I do assume the request for and additional TG is really just a request for an easy 15 crystals a day. When I play Legacy TG and get bombed by Omniscience, HUF/Deploy, and Koth decks full of fat mythics I feel like I'm making a fair argument. They didn't remove legacy TG. God forbid we might have to wait a day if something is in dire need of "testing". Patience is a virtue. I'm not sure how Omniloop decks prove your point that people are only in it for the rewards, and the rest of your comment is full of even less sound assertions than that. The only thing I agree with is that historically people demand more free stuff. But that doesn't really feel relevant here.We have asked many times since the idea for Standard TG was floated to just have 1 TG per day that you could toggle between standard and legacy whenever you want. If it was just about the rewards, why would we ask for that?And as for waiting an extra day to test a deck, I really don't like that tone (and I am one who usually advocates for patience). If I just pulled or crafted a new mythic I am excited about, I want to play with it now. I don't really want to have to wait and then forget all the fun ideas I had for it. And if there is a legacy event starting today I would really like to be able to test my decks before joining instead of 16 hours after or whatever. Why should I be punished for wanting to test a deck on a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday? How do Omni loop decks not prove that? Nobody is testing that out. It works. It's fast and easy. Bam. 15 crystals. And this thread isn't asking for a toggle switch it's asking for 2 TG to run simultaneously every day. Your problem is viewing not being able to play with your new cards immediately as a punishment. As if the devs are up in their high tower cackling at the players and their misery. How about 2 TG a day but 1 gives no crystals or runes? Because it's all for the sake of "testing"?