Antiquities War / Bounce effects bugs

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Daninja
Daninja Posts: 11 Just Dropped In
Antiquities War gives buff according to LOWEST shield count on Chapter III rather than highest - for example if you have a treasure it will only give +1/+1 even if you have a support with 4 or more shields.

Bounce effects don't return stolen creatures (via effects like Eldest Reborn or Bolas Clutches) to OWNERS hand like the should, but rather to CONTROLLERS hand.
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  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
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    The second part is by design. Stealing is a permanent thing in the pq adaption - that's one of the usual points of critique by paper players (would be nice if we had written rules and consistent wording here as well).
  • Daninja
    Daninja Posts: 11 Just Dropped In
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    Well owner is owner, sorry. Its the player who owns the card, who started with it in his/her library. Anything else doesnt make logical sense. Same way as it doesnt make sense to have an opponent's card in your hand, that just doesn't happen in mtg. And if you really wanna bend established rules for no apparent reason and change the powerlevel of cards by it, at least, mtgpq devs, have the courtesy to word it "return to controller's hand" so it's absolutely clear. /Rant
  • RandomID
    RandomID Posts: 12 Just Dropped In
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    I agree the wording could be cleared up re your second point. Not the most important thing on the ever-growing list though I'm sure!

    The actual effectiveness of the saga you mention does need investigating however. Really weakens the payoff. 
  • techmarine5
    techmarine5 Posts: 57 Match Maker
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    Daninja said:
    Well owner is owner, sorry. Its the player who owns the card, who started with it in his/her library. Anything else doesnt make logical sense. Same way as it doesnt make sense to have an opponent's card in your hand, that just doesn't happen in mtg. And if you really wanna bend established rules for no apparent reason and change the powerlevel of cards by it, at least, mtgpq devs, have the courtesy to word it "return to controller's hand" so it's absolutely clear. /Rant
    I agree with you. However, check out the card "X". https://scryfall.com/card/ust/137/x
  • RandomID
    RandomID Posts: 12 Just Dropped In
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    Antiquities War gives buff according to LOWEST shield count on Chapter III rather than highest - for example if you have a treasure it will only give +1/+1 even if you have a support with 4 or more shields.

    Just popping this back here to clarify the issue... 
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
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    Actually, Antiquities War is currently boosting by the highest shield token support, or working properly if you don't have any token supports.