ThaRoadWarrior said: It's visually similar but legally distinct. Creates a countdown that has it's own passives (well, secondary and tertiary effects at least) which do damage and destroy AP every turn. Lights Out does damage and stuns, but the AP destruction effect belongs to Widow rather than the countdown itself. So you could (in my mind) still send that active, and it would do damage with a multi-turn stun, just not destroy AP, but maybe there's a blanket restriction on moves with passives?