Lyra Dawnbringer

Brakkis
Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
in MtGPQ General Discussion
Genuine Inquiry - Why is Lyra Dawnbringer not an Angel Leader? Seriously, she is the literal leader of the angels on Dominaria. 

Also wish there was a Knight leader but that's a different situation. There is an actual story based leader of Angels in Dominaria and you didn't make her a Leader.

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  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Good question regarding Lyra - however, how many ways can we get angel tokens in standard out side of a certain support from origins?

    As for a knight leader, there is one IIRC... you will have to take a look at the tokens introduced in this set carefully.
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    HomeRn said:
    Good question regarding Lyra - however, how many ways can we get angel tokens in standard out side of a certain support from origins?

    As for a knight leader, there is one IIRC... you will have to take a look at the tokens introduced in this set carefully.
    To the first point, there's only one more way of creating Goblin tokens in Standard than there is Angels, and that's with a rare from this set. Yet we still got Squee, the Useless.

    And to the second, nope. Only Slimefoot for Saprolings and Squee for Goblins as leaders. No other leader types.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    Mythic Josu Vess, Lich Knight. He creates a Josu's Zombie that has Leader: Zombie, Knight
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    jimpark said:
    Mythic Josu Vess, Lich Knight. He creates a Josu's Zombie that has Leader: Zombie, Knight

    Oh wow, so there is. I checked every saga for tokens to see if there was a leader from there but completely skipped over Josu.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Brakkis said:
    jimpark said:
    Mythic Josu Vess, Lich Knight. He creates a Josu's Zombie that has Leader: Zombie, Knight

    Oh wow, so there is. I checked every saga for tokens to see if there was a leader from there but completely skipped over Josu.
    Yup.  Easy to miss, almost took me off guard as well.  Considering that it works with both knights and zombies, we might see some interesting Sorin decks that are not vampire themed!
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Probably would have been too powerful to have a creature that's already first strike and lifelink to then also get +7/+7 every time you make an angel token.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,979 Chairperson of the Boards
    wereotter said:
    Probably would have been too powerful to have a creature that's already first strike and lifelink to then also get +7/+7 every time you make an angel token.

    Took the words out of my fingers :) 
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    wereotter said:
    Probably would have been too powerful to have a creature that's already first strike and lifelink to then also get +7/+7 every time you make an angel token.
    If she also had Defender/Vigilance than I would agree
    If there was more than a single angel token generator, I would agree

    As it is, there is only the one with 2 shields, that requires support spam and as she can't block unless you give her a form of blocking yourself, she could be just as easily removed as any other big stick that gets bigger semi-quickly (Hi there Ghalta).
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Brakkis said:
    wereotter said:
    Probably would have been too powerful to have a creature that's already first strike and lifelink to then also get +7/+7 every time you make an angel token.
    If she also had Defender/Vigilance than I would agree
    If there was more than a single angel token generator, I would agree

    As it is, there is only the one with 2 shields, that requires support spam and as she can't block unless you give her a form of blocking yourself, she could be just as easily removed as any other big stick that gets bigger semi-quickly (Hi there Ghalta).
    But if its that hard to use leader on her, why is it a big deal if she has leader or not?  Seems like a lot of extra work for a story flavor and not much else.
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2018
    Mburn7 said:
    Brakkis said:
    wereotter said:
    Probably would have been too powerful to have a creature that's already first strike and lifelink to then also get +7/+7 every time you make an angel token.
    If she also had Defender/Vigilance than I would agree
    If there was more than a single angel token generator, I would agree

    As it is, there is only the one with 2 shields, that requires support spam and as she can't block unless you give her a form of blocking yourself, she could be just as easily removed as any other big stick that gets bigger semi-quickly (Hi there Ghalta).
    But if its that hard to use leader on her, why is it a big deal if she has leader or not?  Seems like a lot of extra work for a story flavor and not much else.

     It's not a big deal. It just makes no sense thematically. It wouldn't have even required much effort to apply the Leader code to her.

    It would certainly be interesting running an angel themed deck with Sigil of the Empty Throne to keep boosting Lyra as you go.
  • BigSwifty
    BigSwifty Posts: 98 Match Maker
    Where is Lyra available? I must be missing something totally obvious. Is she in the vault somewhere as part of a package?
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    BigSwifty said:
    Where is Lyra available? I must be missing something totally obvious. Is she in the vault somewhere as part of a package?
    She's one of the exclusives.  Probably will be up for sale in a few weeks
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,734 Chairperson of the Boards
    Brakkis said:
    Genuine Inquiry - Why is Lyra Dawnbringer not an Angel Leader? Seriously, she is the literal leader of the angels on Dominaria. 

    well...when you put it that way, I guess it makes sense. lol ;)

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