scottee said: I'm not sure how quickly people expect to get a level 250 rank 5 support, but the expectation of the forumites and developers are definitely different, and I think that's the source of all the angst.My guess is they want this to be a months/years type of objective, and that players shouldn't be running around with several maxed supports within the first year or so.
ZeroKarma said: scottee said: I'm not sure how quickly people expect to get a level 250 rank 5 support, but the expectation of the forumites and developers are definitely different, and I think that's the source of all the angst.My guess is they want this to be a months/years type of objective, and that players shouldn't be running around with several maxed supports within the first year or so. That’s fine, but then don’t make that your big toe-in for IW. Unless the expectation is on is the support you get now will be useable by the 2nd movie.
aesthetocyst said: It only takes approx. 120 pulls* to have a 50/50 shot of pulling a particular, unique item from a 300-item vault.The vault gets smaller with each pull.So yes, its bad. But not quite that bad. Merely gawdawful.____________* The math has been done before and it was within 1 or 2 of 120, not 120 exacrly, IIRC.
madoctor said:<snip> . The frustration of the community is largely stemming from the fact that an incomplete feature was released. But I would also prefer (and may be that's the reason why supports were released in this state) to have at least some new feature released, rather than complain about no character rebalances, no new feature added, the whole nine yards in the past months
madoctor said: I reiterate that there need to be more sources to earn red ISO and support tokens. 100% support that fact.
Daredevil217 said: madoctor said: I reiterate that there need to be more sources to earn red ISO and support tokens. 100% support that fact. And here’s where your logic fails. You say that maybe the developers are making them so rare that they can’t be pay to win. But you yourself admit supports and the resources needed to level them aren’t really plentiful in game. So if you can’t win by earning, how else does one earn them? Paying! So the optics of this make it look like supports have been hidden behind a huge paywall. Just because that wall is out of my tax bracket doesn’t mean other whalier whales who are bad at maths aren’t climbing it in an attempt at those shinies!
aesthetocyst said: jamesh said: How do you get the 120? Was a senior moment mental misfire. That was a different vault pulling question, sorry.Yes the math here is simple. To get a particular thing, its min 1 pull, max 300, simple sliding scale in between, average of 150.5 ((300+1)÷2.The devs are just randomly salting supports out there.Look at the cost of building a 5 from such a vault. Ludicrous of course, but we have other sources of LTs. So far we dont for MSTs, but we will ... Right devs? (Right, eh? *wink, wink ... nudge, nudge, I ask you knowingly ....)
jamesh said: How do you get the 120?
madoctor said: May be, the point is to not have all maxed supports within a week of their release.
Dragon_Nexus said: madoctor said: May be, the point is to not have all maxed supports within a week of their release. Which makes them feel like I deleted my account and started over again at 1* level.Which was fun back when 4* Wolverine was the hardest character to obtain, but the way the game works now having a whole new system of stuff to level up and obtain that's as hard as 3*s were when the game began feels really bad to play.Hoo boy, can't wait to spend another 4 years levelling everything up again!
OJSP said: madoctor said:They do not want the feature to be buyable, but rather earnable. I believe that’s what they said about LTs and CPs when they were first introduced.
madoctor said:They do not want the feature to be buyable, but rather earnable.