randomhero1090 said: I was running her with SWitch...
randomhero1090 said: Also ran BWGS, SWitch...
Dormammu said: randomhero1090 said: I was running her with SWitch... randomhero1090 said: Also ran BWGS, SWitch... Which is why he ranked Scarlet Witch in the top 10 and GSBW much lower.
Dormammu said: broll said: Things I disagree with from the rankingsAmerica should be higher IMO, probably 4th taking Medusa's spot.Peggy should be even lower than she already is, probably 15-20. Rocket & Groot should be higher. They are a one tick pony like Medusa (even worse) but they bring speed that she doesn't which is the most important thing to winning any mode of this game. He should be 2nd IMO. I think America is too high. She's really awesome against PvE goons, but not as effective against PvE active opponents or in PvP (unless she's with champed 5-stars).You think Peggy is potentially the 20th worst 4-star? Wow.I'd like to argue with you about R&G, I really would... but I can't.
broll said: Things I disagree with from the rankingsAmerica should be higher IMO, probably 4th taking Medusa's spot.Peggy should be even lower than she already is, probably 15-20. Rocket & Groot should be higher. They are a one tick pony like Medusa (even worse) but they bring speed that she doesn't which is the most important thing to winning any mode of this game. He should be 2nd IMO.
broll said: No I think she's 15-20th best not worst... not sure where you got worst from. She's definitely good, top tier even, but she's not Top 10 / Meta defining IMO.
ZootSax said: Daredevil217 said:dokiy said: I’m going to say this again, Moonstone can do over 4K unboosted damage with her red. Granted she’s board dependent, but she’s not as bad as people think. Now if only D3 could figure out how to get her black to steal countdown tiles again without crashing everything.... I felt I actually had her higher than most. I agree she's not bad. I just think others are good as well. Love her has a tank, really like the black steal, and of course Red is the star of the show! Personally, I'd put Moonstone as high as 7th, as I would generally choose her over Steve (the recurring stun is all he really adds, as his red damage is so pathetic), Torch (...I just don't like him), Carol (weak other than her black, as it's rare you wouldn't have a better red & yellow user in the tier), Wolverine (he's the third best R/Y/G in the tier, so I really never used him if he wasn't required) and Hawkeye (a one trick pony, even if it's a pretty good trick). That said, all her abilities are extremely conditional, so I also understand a lower rating...especially compared to Hawkeye or Carol, whose powers aren't as conditional.Speaking of Dark Avengers, I'd also put Yelena over Venom in the 1* tier (but no higher). Sure, she's terrible, but her black is possibly the best black ability in the tier, so she could actually add something to a team. In a purely 1* world, the unreasonably-nerfed Venom no longer can...which is a shame because 1* Venom/1* Spider-Man/any higher-tier true healer (especially Daken) was a really enjoyable team when Venom still had his insta-kill black.Otherwise, for the 3*'s and 4*'s it's largely a matter of taste for the specifics, but I'd question how high Nick Fury is. With the change to trap tiles, it's hard not to place him a half-dozen or so spots lower in my opinion. While many of the other characters in that range are extremely niche (Quake, Spider-Gwen, MEH Hulk and even Ant-Man, who seems to have a little new life between his yellow's interaction with Carol & a tile-heavy meta) they're generally really good in that niche, while Fury does a few things decently but nothing particularly well. ...and I say this as someone who likes Fury and had him as my second 4* champ.Anyway, all that aside, thanks for keeping this list updated. It's always fun to see other people's opinions on characters, if only to cause me to give them a second look.
Daredevil217 said:dokiy said: I’m going to say this again, Moonstone can do over 4K unboosted damage with her red. Granted she’s board dependent, but she’s not as bad as people think. Now if only D3 could figure out how to get her black to steal countdown tiles again without crashing everything.... I felt I actually had her higher than most. I agree she's not bad. I just think others are good as well. Love her has a tank, really like the black steal, and of course Red is the star of the show!
dokiy said: I’m going to say this again, Moonstone can do over 4K unboosted damage with her red. Granted she’s board dependent, but she’s not as bad as people think. Now if only D3 could figure out how to get her black to steal countdown tiles again without crashing everything....
broll said: Things I disagree with from the rankings4*Medusa is too high in my opinion. She's a one trick pony reliant on one or both teams bringing special tiles. She'd be 8-10 in my list.America should be higher IMO, probably 4th taking Medusa's spot.Peggy should be even lower than she already is, probably 15-20. Rocket & Groot should be higher. They are a one tick pony like Medusa (even worse) but they bring speed that she doesn't which is the most important thing to winning any mode of this game. He should be 2nd IMO.Shuri seems high, I haven't used her enough to really speak to it, but that shocks me how high you put her.Gamora conversely is shockingly low, I would think she's 10-12 at least.Star-Lord seems overly high also, he seems low in the mid tier to me.3*Swap IM40 and Strange.Didn't pay attention to 2* and 1* cause idc those are just DDQ required farms.
randomhero1090 said: If SWitch is 5, then BWGS should be right near top 10. Just think 19 is too low.
Daredevil217 said:Fury I like for his Yellow actually. The stun + crits pls AOE actually makes it one of the better Yellow powers in the tier. Maybe the best? There’s Cage, Dagger, Nova, Cyclops. But really I don’t know how much better those Yellows are. Fury's should be T5 at the lowest. And his blue can still one hit KO you despite the nerf. It’s still very strong. That’s two really good powers. And Purple is a better third power than many top tier characters have. I often find myself reaching for him when I need a P/Y user.