Straycat said: I recently started spending iso leveling up some of my better covered 5*s to 360.
Daredevil217 said:I don’t want to mess up my MMR by champing and once again, I don’t have the Iso to champ and apply the extras anyway.
maguirenumber6 said: Straycat said: I recently started spending iso leveling up some of my better covered 5*s to 360. Why 360? Does it affect your scaling if you level above this point?
Straycat said: maguirenumber6 said: Straycat said: I recently started spending iso leveling up some of my better covered 5*s to 360. Why 360? Does it affect your scaling if you level above this point? I was led to believe that 360 is a good soft cap level. Doesn’t mess up scaling, gets them stronger, doesn’t cost that much iso, etc.
The_A_Train said: I didn't read all of the comments but here's my $0.02:You have a pretty impressive hoard and it seems like you've been working methodically to champ your 4*s and minimize waste.That said, just take into consideration the effort you've put in so far and whether or not you will lose any enjoyment from cracking into your hoard and potentially wasting a lot of covers & lt/cp. If that thought bothers you then work out a better way. You could probably champ 1 4* every 1.5 weeks, so might be worth pulling until you get an unusable cover, hopefully a latest, and then champ that character before pulling again. You're really close to having all the latest and most of the other 4*s champed...seems a shame to waste your hoard right now, but that's just my opinion. Like others have said, there are special cp stores that feature old 5*, so there's still a chance down the road. This is your game. You spend your time playing, planning and thinking about it so you play the way that's most fun for you. Let us know how it goes!
Daredevil217 said: The_A_Train said: I didn't read all of the comments but here's my $0.02:You have a pretty impressive hoard and it seems like you've been working methodically to champ your 4*s and minimize waste.That said, just take into consideration the effort you've put in so far and whether or not you will lose any enjoyment from cracking into your hoard and potentially wasting a lot of covers & lt/cp. If that thought bothers you then work out a better way. You could probably champ 1 4* every 1.5 weeks, so might be worth pulling until you get an unusable cover, hopefully a latest, and then champ that character before pulling again. You're really close to having all the latest and most of the other 4*s champed...seems a shame to waste your hoard right now, but that's just my opinion. Like others have said, there are special cp stores that feature old 5*, so there's still a chance down the road. This is your game. You spend your time playing, planning and thinking about it so you play the way that's most fun for you. Let us know how it goes! My hoard has been a product of iso shortage. I try to minimize waste as much as possible but am still tossing covers constantly. I still open my heroic and event tokens and have to toss covers there as well as when I win them and can’t use them. It sucks but I learn to live with it. So basically I hoard because even without CL/LT I get covers way faster than I can level them and can stay cover-positive champing as I get #14. I get your point about ruining my hard work but I thought about this and really, what am hoarding for? (Same question I know). The dream is to get to a place where I no longer have waste, sure, but with no desire to enter the 5 game anytime soon, the hoard is really not necessary. And if I do want to enter the 5 game I’ll have gotten a leg up with a maxed DD and Gambit.
Took me 167 pulls (93 from tokens- and only ONE 5 from those token pulls!)
9 bonus heros that I used on Quake, Nico til she hit 5 in a color, and then switched to what will be Rogue champ levels. Only one bonus was a 5 (Daredevil, duh!)
24 5s total for 13.6% (1 bonus 5 makes 25 total). So under what you’d expect (damn tokens!)
Started with 1 purple Daredevil, 1 Red/1 Purple Gambit and a Red Thor.
Now here’s where the luck came through. Of my 24 5 Star pulls, 11 were Daredevil for a 45.8% success rate- 48% if you factor in the bonus hero.
Bad news is he landed 5/4/4 and I know his ideal is 5/3/5. Hope he’s still viable at that build because I don’t plan to champ him.
Gambit got seven covers and landed 5/2/2, while Thor got six and ended up 4/2/1. I would really like to finish Gambit but feel it would make sense to do so when Matt is out of packs. Even though I’ll miss out on the sweet sweet sellback! That alone makes it tempting. Plus with 5 Black being a must I’m not off to a great start with him. Would you all suggest selling off some of Gambit’s purple covers? While I can get the Iso and a token? If so, how many?
Onto the 4s!
I got 70 latest, and 73 classic (not factoring in bonuses). So pretty close to that 50/50 mark.
In parentheses are the covers I pulled and in brackets are the increase in champ levels if they are Champed. If not Champed I have their build before the pulls and what their champ level will/would be once I scrounge the Iso up.
Of importance is that before pulling I figured I’d champ Sandman, Yondu, Rogue, Nightcrawler and Nico, letting Lockjaw and Hulk rot. However, with Nico at 12 covers I can instead champ Lockjaw and waste NONE of my latest pulls (Iso permitting). Since I already had a Lockjaw on the vine and he’s first to expire. He may even go first.
Below are the Classics I already have champed. None of this was waste as it was all champ levels.
Here are the classics I have left to champ. Of the 13 pulls here only the 2 Quakes are useable. The other 11 are my only waste out of 276 pulls. Kingpin is a sob. Got more of him than I did some latest and I already had one on the vine. Strongly considered champing but I think I’ll pass.
TLDR: if I can get the Iso to champ Rogue, Nightcrawler, Yondu, Sandman and Lockjaw in 2 weeks, which is possible... then 96% of my pulls would have been useable covers. And... I max-covered Daredevil while getting Gambit and Thor halfway there. Out of LT but still have 4,930 CP (a lot probably came back from those 4* champ rewards). So still a sizeable hoard!
Pants1000 said: I’ll be interested to hear if you end up using a soft-capped 5 much. I think you’ve set yourself up well for the 5* transition, but in my experience an underleveled 5 is much weaker than a good boosted 4.If you don’t think he’s useful at 360-380, pull more when DD leaves, get Gambit fully covered, champ those 2, and you’ll have a great pair for the 5* transition!
The_A_Train said: If you can afford it, champing kingpin and taking Nico up to 209 will provide more return than some of your other options: cp, iso & a head start on the latest 4*...not shabby (plus have the most vine covers for KP, counts for something?)