Milk Jugz said: Sandmaker said: aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude. Yeah... and the reward difference is also more than an order of magnitude.Why are you comparing 300 point to 40 wins? The equivalent needed to get the 10 pack was 12 wins. 8-10 of which could be done with seed teams. Here's that 8-10 seeds thing again.... I've never had more than 3, doesn't matter if I join at start, an hour in, 3 hours, 6, 12, or a full day. If, if, if, if I get seeds it's only 3
Sandmaker said: aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude. Yeah... and the reward difference is also more than an order of magnitude.Why are you comparing 300 point to 40 wins? The equivalent needed to get the 10 pack was 12 wins. 8-10 of which could be done with seed teams.
aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude.
drexyl said: I'm on day 868....
Sandmaker said: Milk Jugz said: Sandmaker said: aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude. Yeah... and the reward difference is also more than an order of magnitude.Why are you comparing 300 point to 40 wins? The equivalent needed to get the 10 pack was 12 wins. 8-10 of which could be done with seed teams. Here's that 8-10 seeds thing again.... I've never had more than 3, doesn't matter if I join at start, an hour in, 3 hours, 6, 12, or a full day. If, if, if, if I get seeds it's only 3 Maybe your device is constantly updating your queue? During the win season, I was able to hit 8-10 on every event consistently. How seed teams work has been figured out for a while now... If you start the second the event starts, your 3 initial nodes and your hidden queue gets filled up with them (because there is no other targets). They don't get wiped out unless your queue updates, or you hard reset your game.
aesthetocyst said: Sandmaker said: aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude. Yeah... and the reward difference is also more than an order of magnitude.Why are you comparing 300 point to 40 wins? The equivalent needed to get the 10 pack was 12 wins. 8-10 of which could be done with seed teams. Illiterate or disingenuous?The post responded to was complaining that reaching 300pts was hellish in PvP. I called on that, stating I have played my 3* alt acct to 300, and it's not at all a problem. His complaint is silly, and if he thinks reaching his goal of 300pts under this system is a pain, then he should consider reaching my goal, the 4* cover under his preferred system, which requires 40 wins. He wants minor relief for himself, at the cost of major pain on others.Oh, and you mentioned seed teams. 1, they can't be counted on; they're very reliable in LRs, very fickle in PvPs. 2, guess what? They exist in both systems. If you are lucky enough to get them, you can get up to 245pts and only need to win 1 or 2 matches to hit 300. Neat, huh?
aesthetocyst said:Oh, and you mentioned seed teams. 1, they can't be counted on; they're very reliable in LRs, very fickle in PvPs. 2, guess what? They exist in both systems. If you are lucky enough to get them, you can get up to 245pts and only need to win 1 or 2 matches to hit 300. Neat, huh?
Addaran said: Unless i'm mistake, Seed teams lose value as people beat them. If you're not super quick, the often start giving lower points, like 19. So for those with problem hitting 300, even the max amount of seed team is probably not enough. But at the MMR i am, i don't seem to be really hit when i'm under 300. As long as i don't start right at the beginning.
Milk Jugz said: aesthetocyst said: What's all this mess about not being able to get 500pts in an hour?I've seen multiple mentions of this.That's a low bar. I see players gain far more in an hour, all the time. Yep, I've seen it too. I've seen alliance mates go 0-1500 inside an hour
aesthetocyst said: What's all this mess about not being able to get 500pts in an hour?I've seen multiple mentions of this.That's a low bar. I see players gain far more in an hour, all the time.
Beer40 said: I don't miss wins based progression at all. I liked it at first, then it became clear it was just a drag. The vets that tell us over and over "you'll like wins based until you develop your roster" are right. Wins based is great for some people. Then you hit a tipping point where you listen to the vets + your roster is capable of what they tell you to do = way less than 40 wins for a 4* cover.Sorry, unless they lower the 4* cover to 25 wins, tops, I don't think I could ever go back.Even then, I don't think I'd want to. There's fun in risking your points to go for the next reward. Excitement. I don't get excited by seeing my win counter going up by 1 after knocking out a dual 5* team that is much stronger than mine. I get excited seeing my score jump substantially because I gained 60+ points for fighting a tougher team. And I get to the next goal much quicker than with +1.
JaGo said: Boy I may get Ramsey Bolton style flayed here, but wouldn't the obvious fix be just to stop losing points for a loss? In wins based you didn't lose a win if you were attacked. Why not do that for points based? I am seriously asking why that would be a bad change?-JaGo
JHawkInc said: WEBGAS said: Beta-Ray Bill said: Play pve. It advances much faster. Leave pvp alone. You may advance in it now but you will not in the future. You’ll hit a wall and never move because bigger rosters can only advance with the cp you can’t get due to 2300 point scores Sorry, but pve it's a completely mess right now. Bigger rosters dropped down to scl8 and scl7 where they can easily dominate. So forget top10 if you re are aiming to it.I don't condamn them (maybe I would do the same if I was in their shoes)....but opening scl9 is not enough if the rewards are not worth the efforts they require Slices have 1,000 people, literally 99% of the people that play can't get t10. Not being able to get t10 is hardly a reason to write off an entire game mode. PVE still advances you faster than PVP does.
WEBGAS said: Beta-Ray Bill said: Play pve. It advances much faster. Leave pvp alone. You may advance in it now but you will not in the future. You’ll hit a wall and never move because bigger rosters can only advance with the cp you can’t get due to 2300 point scores Sorry, but pve it's a completely mess right now. Bigger rosters dropped down to scl8 and scl7 where they can easily dominate. So forget top10 if you re are aiming to it.I don't condamn them (maybe I would do the same if I was in their shoes)....but opening scl9 is not enough if the rewards are not worth the efforts they require
Beta-Ray Bill said: Play pve. It advances much faster. Leave pvp alone. You may advance in it now but you will not in the future. You’ll hit a wall and never move because bigger rosters can only advance with the cp you can’t get due to 2300 point scores
Not losing points would be bad if you care about placement, the person who wins 1st place would just be whoever plays non stop to get 100000000000000 points. And they probably don't want every single player to be able to win the cp at 1200.
ursopro said: JaGo said: Boy I may get Ramsey Bolton style flayed here, but wouldn't the obvious fix be just to stop losing points for a loss? In wins based you didn't lose a win if you were attacked. Why not do that for points based? I am seriously asking why that would be a bad change?-JaGo That will bring another problem which is alliance and players collusion to acquire monster scores.Not that it doesn't happen right now with shield check rooms but at least that requires some kind of coordination.
aesthetocyst said: Sandmaker said: aesthetocyst said: drexyl said: I'm on day 868.... You quite a bit more advanced than my alt account is.Playing my alt account to 300 is far less painful and time consuming than playing my main account to 40 wins.Like, by an order of magnitude. Yeah... and the reward difference is also more than an order of magnitude.Why are you comparing 300 point to 40 wins? The equivalent needed to get the 10 pack was 12 wins. 8-10 of which could be done with seed teams. Illiterate or disingenuous?