Tosel wrote: klingsor wrote: I am pretty frustrated right now. So I held a 20 hour lead, let's say 650ish. Then this dude, Tosl, comes out of nowhere (his roster is **** btw, so why he is in my tournament standings, but his team is so low levelled I can't find it, I don't understand. Can someone explain?) and pushes past me by 50 points. So i break shield, push three patches then shield again. Risky but fine. Well he breaks shield and does the same thing. I breach 800 before wham, 2 attacks and I'm down to 675, again, He apparently gets attacked too, but doesn't reshield. I end up freaking out and switching to Patch, buy ISO and level him 10 levels or so as a last resort, thinking with his fast output I can win faster and put up the shield. Well, for some reason this brings the hordes back, and my Patch ends up working as bait instead of deterrent. Long story short, presumably that dude wins the tournament, and I don't finish my last fight in time (so I guess it doesn't count...) and I end up placing top 5. I spent real cash though, and probably about 1000 HP in shields, most of them at the last 3 hours...I got **** rewards other than the 3 Hood covers, so now I stand with a level 20 Hood for my efforts. I know I am solely to blame for all my bad decisions. Hi there, tosl here. Sorry for the loss. I pushed 3 times a bit further with about 16h in between, so i didn't came "out of nowhere". I just didn't shield, because this tournament ended 18 o'clock my time, with me coming home early from work. With that push to 800. I did the same, got smacked down, pulled a boost, because you have been 3 points in front of me. Now the lucky part was, that while i did this one more game, my team won on defense. I did not spend 1k hp, but 500 for three shields and a +3boost. Could have gone another way easily and i would be pissed. Just the point with the **** rooster: I played with a 100 Hulk, 75 IM40 and a 77 OBW. I just go for purple in the beginning, then yellow, then rank up 30 green and 30 red and just smack down the last two standing with hulks red. This works just fine. Best regards
klingsor wrote: I am pretty frustrated right now. So I held a 20 hour lead, let's say 650ish. Then this dude, Tosl, comes out of nowhere (his roster is **** btw, so why he is in my tournament standings, but his team is so low levelled I can't find it, I don't understand. Can someone explain?) and pushes past me by 50 points. So i break shield, push three patches then shield again. Risky but fine. Well he breaks shield and does the same thing. I breach 800 before wham, 2 attacks and I'm down to 675, again, He apparently gets attacked too, but doesn't reshield. I end up freaking out and switching to Patch, buy ISO and level him 10 levels or so as a last resort, thinking with his fast output I can win faster and put up the shield. Well, for some reason this brings the hordes back, and my Patch ends up working as bait instead of deterrent. Long story short, presumably that dude wins the tournament, and I don't finish my last fight in time (so I guess it doesn't count...) and I end up placing top 5. I spent real cash though, and probably about 1000 HP in shields, most of them at the last 3 hours...I got **** rewards other than the 3 Hood covers, so now I stand with a level 20 Hood for my efforts. I know I am solely to blame for all my bad decisions.
Phantron wrote: Breaking shields when you've above 600 is always risky. There's no predictable way to do it. You can go check the Avenger Elite thread for some guidelines on how to best break shields, but it bascially boils down to that when you shield you should have a team that is hard to attack, because no matter how fast you think you are, there's always someone (usually more than one guy) who sees you the moment you break your shield. You get one chance to switch teams safely (start with defensive team, break shield with high offense team and opponent still sees your defense team until you're done with your match), but that's it, which is why the Avenger Elite tournment was won by someone running a very defensive team (Hulk/IM40/Punisher?). At high rating, the most important part is that you have to slow your opponents down, because there's no way you can outrace 5 guys who see you pop up on their screen for 40 points.
starsrift wrote: Nailed a top 5 finish. I stayed strong most of the tournament, only falling down a couple times. The leader in my bracket, Sockid, finished up in first with some near-1000 points - when I last checked I was third with 637, 2nd place had 648. Everyone else in my bracket is tier-2 upper/mid level heroes, Sockid's all high-level tier 3's. Must've been doing some serious tanking to get down here, noticed he was leading some of the LR's too with ridiculous scores. That rascal!
klingsor wrote: If someone can explain why Tosl and myself had same rating and on same leaderboard but couldn't find each other I would appreciate it.
locked wrote: a bit hurtful, finishing only top 45 after staying top 10 and even top 1-2 during all of the tournament. I wish people stopped pushing so hard in the last minutes, this isn't LR ffs, want a quick grab? Go to LR.[img][/img]
ihearthawthats wrote: locked wrote: a bit hurtful, finishing only top 45 after staying top 10 and even top 1-2 during all of the tournament. I wish people stopped pushing so hard in the last minutes, this isn't LR ffs, want a quick grab? Go to LR.[img][/img] Why should they change their strat if it's working? And why are you reluctant to change your strat if it's not working?
Fangel wrote: Shielding would have guaranteed a cover or two. You chose to take a gamble and it didnt pay off.
ihearthawthats wrote: Why should they change their strat if it's working? And why are you reluctant to change your strat if it's not working?
locked wrote: ihearthawthats wrote: Why should they change their strat if it's working? And why are you reluctant to change your strat if it's not working? You know what? I am a fan of both Puzzle Quest and Marvel. But not a fan of turtling. Guess why I'm not pro extensive shielding. I like playing, dammit. I wish the system were a bit more fair to players like me. No we can't afford several day long shields; and even if we could, we WANT TO PLAY and be rewarded proportionately. It would have been extremely easy for me to keep place 2, had I not wasted 100 HP for a useless 3 hours shield a day before; lesson learned and I don't think I will pay for another shield anytime soon, since my roster is full yet again. But I don't see how other people can have fun with oh such a clever shielding strategy, when this is a match 3 game and not a timing contest.
klingsor wrote: Phantron wrote: Breaking shields when you've above 600 is always risky. There's no predictable way to do it. You can go check the Avenger Elite thread for some guidelines on how to best break shields, but it bascially boils down to that when you shield you should have a team that is hard to attack, because no matter how fast you think you are, there's always someone (usually more than one guy) who sees you the moment you break your shield. You get one chance to switch teams safely (start with defensive team, break shield with high offense team and opponent still sees your defense team until you're done with your match), but that's it, which is why the Avenger Elite tournment was won by someone running a very defensive team (Hulk/IM40/Punisher?). At high rating, the most important part is that you have to slow your opponents down, because there's no way you can outrace 5 guys who see you pop up on their screen for 40 points. I did read that Avengers Elite post, which is what prompted to me copy his strategy. Deshield, fight once, and shield worked fine except the last 30 minutes of the tourney. It was the only time I lost, but it was when it counted the most. If I am understand Phantron correctly, you finish the match say with IM40, Hulk and Spidey or Patch, whoever is your deterrant, then you switch to your offensive team, fight once then shield? if that happens your offensive team is left up no? So do you have to fight twice? One with offensive team, then again with defensive team to assure that the defensive team is left up? I Tried doing the first strategy, but the problem is I had to break shields more than once, because TOSL would also deshield, gain 18 points on me, and shield. If I had a level 140 Patch maybe that would have been a deterrent, but lvl 89 Patch wasn't...
Toxicadam wrote: I shielded at 510 with about 7 hours left. I was in 9th at the time, I'm kind of curious where I will end up. Won't find out until tonight.
locked wrote: . What was it like before shields? Does anyone even remember? I say, screw the shields. They do naught for players who don't have thousands at their disposal (like me; never sailed coattails of c. Storm, Loki, Rags and GSBW, Thorverine, max blue Spidey, etc.) I'm content with getting what I can at my speed anyway; it's not like you get enough iso to level all the covers.
Eddiemon wrote: locked wrote: . What was it like before shields? Does anyone even remember? I say, screw the shields. They do naught for players who don't have thousands at their disposal (like me; never sailed coattails of c. Storm, Loki, Rags and GSBW, Thorverine, max blue Spidey, etc.) I'm content with getting what I can at my speed anyway; it's not like you get enough iso to level all the covers. Everyone waited till the last 2 hours and piled on. The rest of the event was basically meaningless. If you couldn't play in the last 2 hours you were out of luck. It was a terrible system for most people with jobs.