nexusgrim wrote: It feels like I'm stuck in this transition with no sign of things improving. I can't battle events well enough to earn rewards
BlackSheep101 wrote: Are you in an alliance? The thing that sped up my 3* transition the most (after DDQ) was joining an alliance that routinely finished high enough in events to get HP awards. That let me roster more (eventually all) 3*s, letting me improve them with DDQ.
simonsez wrote: nexusgrim wrote: It feels like I'm stuck in this transition with no sign of things improving. I can't battle events well enough to earn rewards What about PvE and DDQ?
nexusgrim wrote: Yes I started one along with my daughter and my gf but over time the members that were in it have ceased playing so it may well be time to jump ship. My only concern there is a lot of alliances have quite high demands of people, I work full time so may not be an ideal roster member time devotion wise.
BlackSheep101 wrote: nexusgrim wrote: Yes I started one along with my daughter and my gf but over time the members that were in it have ceased playing so it may well be time to jump ship. My only concern there is a lot of alliances have quite high demands of people, I work full time so may not be an ideal roster member time devotion wise. There are casual alliances out there. If you can find a good group where everyone plays every day, you'll notice a significant improvement.
colwag wrote: As somebody with plenty of ready-to-max 3*s and a fear of doing so, I'm kinda in the same boat here. I'm like "what's the point of getting all those 3*s out when I don't even have the great ones like Iron Fist, Loki, and Scarlet Witch ready? I can't compete without them!" or something like that. A team of is not a team that can take down high PVP scores on it's own, I don't think. So I'm hiding scared until I get 12 more Iron Fist covers and 8 more Scarlet Witches and junk.
Mazza wrote: In the transition. I'm in s great alliance and it helps, but it can be tough. With all the 4* and even 5* coming out getting 3* to 166 feels a little useless although necessary. Something needs to be done or new players will have it rough I think.
Hayek wrote: I agree that the 2 to 3 transitioners have a much harder time getting PvP placement rewards these days and so the game may seem to you like it's catering to veterans. But when I was going through that same transition a few months ago, here's what we didn't have:
Hayek wrote: [*] DDQ that helps you complete your 3 that you already have rostered
Hayek wrote: [*] DDQ ISO rewards for leveling
Hayek wrote: [*] Drastically reduced ISO cost of leveling for 3 and 4
Hayek wrote: [*] Guaranteed 4 (and possibly 5) PvE progression that can be achieved easily with a mere 3 clears a day
Hayek wrote: [*] Drastically improved rates of 3 and 4 from tokens
Hayek wrote: [*] 4 from second place in PvE
Hayek wrote: [*] Reachable 3 and 4 rewards in shield sim[/list]
Hayek wrote: So looking from my side of the fence, it seems like it's a much better time to be a new player. Heck, nowadays many players are not really going from 2 -> 3, but rather 2 -> 3/4 transition. I remember when I finally had a couple of 166s, I had one IW, one fury, and one xf cover. And it took soooo long to get more. Now you can probably have a handful of 4s with a handful of covers by the time you get to solid 3 territory.
herbal wrote: Hayek wrote: [*] Guaranteed 4 (and possibly 5) PvE progression that can be achieved easily with a mere 3 clears a day My experience is quite different. Or perhaps I don't have the same definition of 'clearing a node' that you do. At three different times each day, I attack all pve nodes I can. I generally have a high success rate. But I don't have time to wear down all the points values on all nodes to 0. My results are commonly to get about halfway to two-thirds along the rewards progression before the pve event ends. In this way the 4* rewards are blatantly not accessible. Subsequently, the useful placement rewards are commonly out of reach.
herbal wrote: For whatever reason, the same approach I was using to get consistent top 50 results in pve progression early in the year fails to get in the top 200 now. I don't have time to research in depth or debate whatever I'm doing wrong. I just have to accept that this is no longer an option for my progression goals.
herbal wrote: I haven't tried alliances. They're forced to twist themselves around to orbit the unyielding difficult progressions, and I can't afford to adapt in those ways. Even the casual alliances have to deal with the facts that casual play doesn't get far along these progression paths, which makes them rife with unreliability.