*** Ragnarok (Dark Avengers) ***

aesthetocyst wrote:

barrok wrote:

How much value is put in the blue tiles he creates? I would love to have a red active and a blue creator for ant man, but I have a feeling rag will just let me down.

I use rags a lot. Not as good a blue battery as MnMags, but a better tank to protect your blue user with. Since each use only creates 3 blue tiles, I pile up red until I can spam Rags red 3 times, to make 9 blue tiles. If there's any blue on the board, some matches will be made.

Probably better off with a different tank and a stealer to snag some blue?

Pretty sure that if I went to the effort of gathering 18 red AP, I'd want something else than 3k+ damage and the chance of 1 or 2 blue matches. For comparison, Hulkbuster would deal over 10k damage; with 2 AP more Cyclops or 4hor would deal 8k+ damage; for 4 less AP, Human Torch would deal 6k+. If you really need blue that badly, then focus on gathering it rather than on gathering 18 red. Most of the best blue abilities in the game cost 10 or less, anyway.

few slight tweaks would make me love this rag's since they took away what I loved to do with him which was the column blasting over and over

This is more a power i'd be willing to take team self damage for

Godlike Power - Green 12
Ragnarok slams his hammer down, releasing a wave of electricity that scars the battlefield. Deals 203 damage to all enemies and 137 to allies. Destroys 2 random columns. Does not generate AP.
Level 2: Deals 266 damage to enemies and 137 to allies.
Level 3: Deals 331 damage to enemies and 137 to allies, destroys 3 random columns.
Level 4: Deals 461 damage to enemies and 137 to allies.
Level 5: Deals 719 damage to enemies and 137 to allies, destroys 4 random columns.
MAX Level 5: Deals 2276 damage to all enemies and 435 to allies.

and then touch up the blue's base charge tile amount and max by 1

Lightning Rod - Blue 8
Ragnarok hurls his hammer into the thunderclouds, where it absorbs the power of the storm. Creates 2 Green Charged tile. Catching the hammer charges the cyborg with electricity, giving him a burst of 312 health.
Level 2: Creates 2 Charged tile. Ragnarok heals 371 health.
Level 3: Creates 3 Charged tiles. Ragnarok heals 371 health.
Level 4: Creates 3 Charged tiles. Ragnarok heals 480 health.
Level 5: Creates 4 Charged tiles. Ragnarok heals 552 health.
MAX Level 5: Creates 4 Charged tiles. Ragnarok heals 1754 health.

When Rags got changed, I was going to go 3/5/5, but after I re-read blue, I realized that he just converted already green tiles, for some reason I thought he overwrote basic tiles. So while a 3/5/5 is I guess a fast accelerator, he doesn't increase your chance of making a match. Putting charged tiles up for grabs with no other benefit other than hoping you match them is a bad idea in my book. At least with Thor you hit harder with more charged tiles, plus you can at least stun the guy who would benefit most from those colors.

Rags is a good blue battery, that can hang around in a fight, and when buffed his green hits very, very hard. I think 5/5/3 is the better way to go. To completely destroy greens dmg for some extra fake heal points and putting an extra charged tile (only going to get you 2 more AP) no thank you.

If blue changed basic to green charge or made 4-5 charged, well maybe, but as is, no 5/5/3.

I miss the old Clodlike power (yes that was on purpose) because it immediately shredded most of inferno and I HATE OTHER PEOPLE's INFERNO!!
However I have found pairing Ragnarock with Stretch Marvel to be reasonable.

Phaserhawk wrote:

When Rags got changed, I was going to go 3/5/5, but after I re-read blue, I realized that he just converted already green tiles, for some reason I thought he overwrote basic tiles. So while a 3/5/5 is I guess a fast accelerator, he doesn't increase your chance of making a match. Putting charged tiles up for grabs with no other benefit other than hoping you match them is a bad idea in my book. At least with Thor you hit harder with more charged tiles, plus you can at least stun the guy who would benefit most from those colors.

Rags is a good blue battery, that can hang around in a fight, and when buffed his green hits very, very hard. I think 5/5/3 is the better way to go. To completely destroy greens dmg for some extra fake heal points and putting an extra charged tile (only going to get you 2 more AP) no thank you.

If blue changed basic to green charge or made 4-5 charged, well maybe, but as is, no 5/5/3.

Don't overlook the usefulness of the charged green tiles when you pair him with LThor. Only use red and blue for rags, then yellow and green for LThor and spam 6 red when you've got 12 ap so that gives you 8 blue (do it when there are enough blue already on the board to cause a match 5 cascade if lucky).

With blue stocked you can save the blue till needed and deploy tactically to make LThor get those much needed greens for CTS. Cast Rags blue when modest greens on the board followed by thunderstrike which hopefully again causes cascade with green, but this time since there are charged green tiles the damage is increased and the cascades will definitely accelerate collection of green to 20+ (I've done this many times). Let loose with CTS twice in a row if you have enough and you've got a powerful duo, and team them them with Hulk/RHulk/Cage/Sentry/SHulk/KK.

For me I'm going 4/4/5.

Honestly I have been using him a lot he is kinda fun, now that Quicksilver is fixed. Run Rags with QS and KK, extremely fast and very hard to take down due to that speed and healing. Give it a try especially this week while they are both boosted, I have been using them all week for the high level nodes in scaling events.