You must upgrade to a 3* team..why?

Right now I have a Spiderman and Punisher with enough covers that they're now "Viable". However, I'm still using a similarly-levelled Original Black Widow and Wolverine, simply because the scaling on higher-star heroes is slower. They don't really surpass until a certain threshold (I'm guessing the 90-95 range), and as such I'm waiting until Punisher's 3 strike tiles will exceed Wolverine's (and by exceed, I mean 10 or so more each, given how Wolverine can generate them more rapidly once he gets some red). It's more of a long-term thing, that keeps getting longer given events like the Rage and Ruin event, where all my ISO is being pumped into Ares instead of Peter Parker.

Even ignoring the fact that Thorverine will be nerfed, the 3* abilities scale much higher. My grey suit widow does 2100 damage to entire team at Lv 81. At max level that scales to more than 3300 (or is it 3600?) so it's not just match damage that's higher.

My classic Magneto can one shot pretty much any non buffed character.

Yea, that is the unique thing about MPQ to other similar games like this I have played. When you get a 'rarer' card/character it doesn't really become apparent how good they are until you have poured A TON of resources into them.

In other games, you immediately see the positive benefits/power of the rarer characters the minute you put it into play.

I think they tried to address that issue by letting you play with a 'boosted' version of them in various tournaments, but it's been a really poor way of showing off a character.

With no rag there are no scary teams due to boosts. Hp and low ap moves are the only consideration. One of the reasons the hulk is top 5 for me is that he is quite beefy which means you either A. Have to waste your quick takedown moves on him in one go or B. Dunk him down from the start and use the big moves on the others. Either way it forces a slightly longer game= more damage/time taken. Take out thor/ares and the avg. Hp pool for a 2** is about 3400. That's pretty quick to take down. 5800 is avg for the 3***. 7000-8000 will probably be avg for the 4**** (iw is in the 7000 range and wolvie is in the 9000 range. If you compare his hp with his other versions he is generally a little above avg on hp and so I could see someone like a 4**** iron patriot having 12k hp and a 4**** thor having 13k).

On off. Thor and wolvie were top 5 characters. Thor has insane board control and that will certainly be nerfed either with higher ap cost or lower color generation. Wolvie green will certainly see nerfs and likely rather hard ones too. Obw Is only really a strong off weapon because she took advantage of wolvie's ridiculous green. With that gone she loses a lot of her gusto and sits more as the support character she was meant to be (can still do well with strike tiles though). I fully expect feral claw to be 5-8 ap now and, depending on the ap, have a set # of tiles dropped. Thor I expect to have his red messed with considerably and his yellow possibly changed a tad (personally I think his yellow is fine once you nerf the red's ability to easily churn out yellow).

In the current meta the buffed characters are king and are really the deciding factor on "do I fight this guy or not?" Part of that is due to the parity of everyone having to use them on their team so its a direct comparison of strength and part of that is because with boosts their hp gets irritating to take down compared to others. Again more hp means slower match which means bigger chance of a bad cascade hurting you.

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I hope the impending nerfs don't ruin the very satisfying mid-level experience.

I hadn't thought about it, but that's a really valid concern, in my opinion. On the one hand, three-star characters don't have the godlike advantage they did before the Ragnarok changes. On the other, breaking from two-star into three was the single most difficult thing in the game in my opinion. Ultimately, the thing that will make it ok is OBW. I doubt Wolverine's strike tile damage will be decreased. I see them raising the cost of his green. But I think OBW/Wolverine will still be a very strong combo.

It's not just the level but also the available covers that make a hero "usable". I mean, you can level up a certain 3* hero pretty high, let's take a spiderman but say you have no blues or 1 blue cover you just have a higher level dead weight So it's more of a combination of covers and levels rather than just one of the two. This may be a fairly obvious statement, but I thought I would mention it anyway since I've levelled up my Invisible Woman some for the 240 battles that require her. Unfortunately, without any blue covers I feel she's just a meat shield with slightly higher tile damage.

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Roya PQ wrote:

It's not just the level but also the available covers that make a hero "usable". I mean, you can level up a certain 3* hero pretty high, let's take a spiderman but say you have no blues or 1 blue cover you just have a higher level dead weight So it's more of a combination of covers and levels rather than just one of the two. This may be a fairly obvious statement, but I thought I would mention it anyway since I've levelled up my Invisible Woman some for the 240 battles that require her. Unfortunately, without any blue covers I feel she's just a meat shield with slightly higher tile damage.

Not even really that much higher. IIRC, 4*s only get like 5 extra tile damage for the extra hundred levels

Agreed, but in this case she's boosted so a bit more than normal still